Over the winter I'm going to do the exhaust system on my car, I've already made a choice to go with a Magnaflow cat'd X-pipe and Magnaflow catback. The final thing is headers, I was originally not even thinking about getting them but since I'll be ripping all this crap apart I might as well do the whole job. I was looking on PartShopper and I saw they have JBA and Ford Racing headers. The one thing I liked about the Ford Racing ones is that they are ceramic coated and the JBA ones on there weren't. I know JBA makes ceramic headers, so basically my question is which set of headers are the best? And is gettng the ceramic coating worth the extra money?
JBA vs. Ford Racing
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The JBA's are good for 8-10 rwhp, the FRPPs are good for 2-3 maybe. If you compare the two designs closely you can see that there's no way the FRPPs will flow as well as the JBAs.
You may also want to look into the new BBKs. I haven't seen any dyno results for them, but they are cheaper than the JBAs and look to have a good design.
If you want to see some detail pics of the JBAs, search for a thread started by me last Nov/Dec. Thats when I installed mine.
You may also want to look into the new BBKs. I haven't seen any dyno results for them, but they are cheaper than the JBAs and look to have a good design.
If you want to see some detail pics of the JBAs, search for a thread started by me last Nov/Dec. Thats when I installed mine.
crew_dawg16
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JBAs have the best dyno-proven gains of any shorty that I've seen. They advertise gains of a Long tube but I don't think you will see it. Expect 10 rwhp from the JBAs and only a few from FRPP
BETTERBULLITT
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I wouldn't expect much from a shorty header, NA.. Look at my results below..
The JBA's were definitely a lot better quality wise than the stockers I took off, and I am sure if I added forced induction they would help. But NA they do practically nothing.
The JBA's were definitely a lot better quality wise than the stockers I took off, and I am sure if I added forced induction they would help. But NA they do practically nothing.
boomshack
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BETTERBULLITT said:
Do you have a 99+ GT or 95-98? I ask because 260bhp minus %15 drivetrain loss would net you at 220-225 rwhp, so with the catted X, catback and headers, your dyno runs would show that you haven't gained anything
NEVERMIND...just read your after mod numbers in your sig...my dumbass should learn to read
WhiteDevil69
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The BBK's are worth looking into. I love mine so far, can't give dyno numbers just yet, but the SOTP meter tells me there is more than 2-3hp... I didn't even feel the difference in accelleration with the catback or mid-pipe, but these make it feel like a different car above 2500rpmsNasaGT said:The JBA's are good for 8-10 rwhp, the FRPPs are good for 2-3 maybe. If you compare the two designs closely you can see that there's no way the FRPPs will flow as well as the JBAs.
You may also want to look into the new BBKs. I haven't seen any dyno results for them, but they are cheaper than the JBAs and look to have a good design.
If you want to see some detail pics of the JBAs, search for a thread started by me last Nov/Dec. Thats when I installed mine.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think the cermaic coating resists heat transfer and it also will look nicer down the road. The non-ceramic ones look pretty at first but they will discolor eventually.
I don't have any heat issues and don't care how the headers look (not a show car), so the expense of ceramic coating didn't appeal to me. I can certainly see why some people want it, and if money where growing on the trees in my backyard I would have gotten it. Hope that helps.
I don't have any heat issues and don't care how the headers look (not a show car), so the expense of ceramic coating didn't appeal to me. I can certainly see why some people want it, and if money where growing on the trees in my backyard I would have gotten it.
Hope that helps.
The coating does stop heat transfer. So by keeping the heat in the tube the exhaust doesn't lose velocity. It also protects the metal from corrosion which makes the header last longer. My buddy has a set of coated headers on a 502 Chevy making about 800hp. Five minutes after he shut it off I could touch the headers without burning myself.
BETTERBULLITT
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Yep, ceramic coating is very cool!! Literally..! Helps protect the headers from heat damage, as well as making sure they don't look all scorched up after running the car for an hour.
FRPP 
Great quality, design, indestructible ceramic coating!
I belong to another forum and they guys there running the JBA's on their 4.6’s have had several occasions where they crack over time. Something to consider, the Mac's on my last Mustang were dyno proven as one of the best systems (as far as power) to buy, but their build quality was crap.
I'll take 1-2 less horsepower for a trouble free header that will look and perform well for years.
Great quality, design, indestructible ceramic coating!I belong to another forum and they guys there running the JBA's on their 4.6’s have had several occasions where they crack over time. Something to consider, the Mac's on my last Mustang were dyno proven as one of the best systems (as far as power) to buy, but their build quality was crap.
I'll take 1-2 less horsepower for a trouble free header that will look and perform well for years.
