Water pump and timing cover bolt kits..
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I hated that nobody made a fastener kit that had the actual factory style studs and after calling a dealership and finding out I could get all but one (due to discontinuation) BUT these idiots wanted $30 for 1 freakin stud. Low and behold one of those stupid little H.E.L.P. packages you see at most autoparts stores had the exact studs I needed to replace. Not stainless of course though but is where I had to look to find new studs.
This is all the information I have in my "file"...
Water Pump Bolts:
The quickest and easiest way to get the proper timing cover bolts and water pump bolts is to buy two kits from www.totallystainless.com.
Timing Chain Housing Kit 302 EFI 12 pt stainless. #6-0847
Water Pump Kit 302 EFI Through '93 12 pt stainless. #6-0931
The above are just bolts, no special studs for accessories
TotallyStainless.com does not sell a water pump kit for 94/95 5.0L.
If the prices above are a bit steep you can piece them together with the information below:
Autozone carries 3 of the odd sizes, which includes 2 studs and one long bolt.
http://www.autozone.com/selectedZip...l/initialR,NONAPP15034/shopping/selectZip.htm
The Autozone part number is 23744.
Bolt Dimensions for Autozone (Motormite Inc.) 23744 bolts:
Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Cars & Trucks 3.8L, 4.6L, 5.0L, & 5.8L. Includes 1 bolt and 2 studs.
Bolt Size: 5/16"-18 x 5",
Stud Size: 5/16"-18 x 3/8" x 16 x 5-3/8" and 5/16"-18 x 3/8"-16 x 3-7/16".
Torrie at www.fastpartsnetwork.com can get you many of the bolts.
More measurements of the water pump/timing cover bolts:
Here are some specs on the OEM fasteners, going clockwise looking at the
front of the engine, starting at the lower passenger side:
All threads are 5/16-18 pitch except for the stud portion of #6-9
which is 3/8-16
#1 Stud/Bolt, OAL 3-5/16, UHL 2.25
Bolt threaded 1", shank 1.25 (1 + 1.25 = 2.25" UHL)
Flange head .25", 5/16-18 stud thread = 13/16"
1 + 1.25 + .25 + 13/16 = 3-5/16" OAL
Drive size is 1/2"
Notes: This bolt/stud clamps the TCC to the block, retains the
timing tab,
and the stud retains the support bracket for the AIR pump,
accessory nut is 5/16-18, 1/2" drive (not a flange nut, but
could be)
#2 Stud/Bolt, OAL 3-1/16, UHL 2.25
Bolt threaded 1", shank 1 (1 + 1 = 2" UHL)
Flange head .25", 5/16-18 stud thread = 13/16"
1 + 1 + .25 + 13/16 = 3-1/16" OAL
Drive size is 1/2"
Notes: Same as #1, but the shank is .25" shorter. This bolt/stud
clamps the
TCC to the block, and retains the timing tab. Stud may be unused
#3 Bolt, OAL 4-1/16, UHL 3-7/8
Bolt threaded 1", shank 2-7/8 (1 + 2/7/8 = 3-7/8" UHL)
Standard head 3/16"
1 + 2-7/8 + 3/16 = 4-1/16" OAL
Drive size is 5/8"
Notes: Clamps water pump to TCC and TCC to block
#4 Same as #3
#5 Bolt, OAL 2-7/8, UHL 2-11/16
Bolt threaded 1", shank 1-11/16 (1 + 1-11/16 = 2-11/16" UHL)
Standard head 3/16"
1 + 1-11/16 + 3/16 = 2-7/8" OAL
Drive size is 5/8"
Notes: Clamps water pump to TCC
#6 Stud/Bolt, OAL 3-7/16, UHL 1-15/16
Bolt threaded 1", shank 15/16 (1 + 15/16 = 1-15/16" UHL)
Standard head 3/16", 3/8-16 stud thread = 1-5/16"
1 + 15/16 +3/16 + 1-5/16 = 3-7/16" OAL
Drive size is 5/8"
Notes: Stud retains accessory, accessory flange nut is 3/8-16,
9/16 drive
Clamps water pump to TCC
#7 Same as #6
#8 Stud/Bolt, OAL 5-5/16, UHL 5-1/16
Bolt threaded 1", shank 2-7/8 (1 + 2-7/8 = 3-7/8" UHL)
Standard head 3/16", 3/8-16 stud thread = 1-1/4"
1 + 2-7/8 +3/16 + 1-1/4 = 5-5/16" OAL
Drive size is 5/8"
Notes: Stud retains accessory, accessory flange nut is 3/8-16,
9/16 drive
Clamps water pump to TCC and TCC to block
#9 Stud/Bolt, OAL 6-1/2, UHL 5-1/16
Bolt threaded 7/8", shank 4-3/16 (7/8 + 4-3/16 = 5-1/16" UHL)
Standard head 3/16", 3/8-16 stud thread = 1-1/4"
7/8 + 4-3/16 + 3/16 + 1-1/4 = 6-1/2" OAL
Drive size is 5/8"
Notes: Stud retains accessory, accessory flange nut is 3/8-16,
9/16 drive
Clamps water pump to TCC and TCC to block
#10 Bolt, OAL 2-1/4, UHL 2
Bolt threaded 1", shank 1 (1 + 1 = 2" UHL)
Flange head 1/4"
1 + 1 + 1/4 = 2-1/4" OAL
Drive size is 1/2"
Notes: Clamps TCC to block
#11 Same as #10
#12 Bolt, OAL 1-1/8, UHL 7/8
Bolt threaded 7/8", no shank (7/8 + 0* = 7/8" UHL)
Flange head 1/4"
7/8 + 1/4 = 1-1/8" OAL
Drive size is 1/2"
Notes: Clamps TCC to block (top, near intake)
#13 Same as #12
Ford studs use 5/16” on the engine side and 3/8” studs on the accessory side.
From Helmut Roner for timing cover/water pump bolts for no p/s and no a/c:
Lowes Hardware:
One 5/16 x 5½ inch @ $.47, Item # 55819.
Six 5/16 x 2 inch @ $.16 each, Item # 63319.
Three 5/16 x 4 inch @ $.28 each, Item # 63322
One 5/16 x ? inch @ $. , Item # ?????
The last one I typed I don't have, yet. It should be 2-3/4 to 3 inches long. I bought a 2½ and not much of the threads go far enough into the timing cover. It's for the bolt hole that is between the two water ports on the upper left of the water pump. I'll have that info later tomorrow.
The bolts for the water pump pulley to be used without a belt-driven fan are 5/16 x 3/4 24-thread. The two rearmost cover bolts which bolt the cover to the block (not shown) are 5/16 x 3/4 inch. I am scavenging those from an ARP bolt kit that I have which can't be used with late model timing covers. Only a few from the kit could be used as the kit was designed for older model 289/302/351W timing covers.
Good Luck
Water Pump Bolts:
The quickest and easiest way to get the proper timing cover bolts and water pump bolts is to buy two kits from www.totallystainless.com.
Timing Chain Housing Kit 302 EFI 12 pt stainless. #6-0847
Water Pump Kit 302 EFI Through '93 12 pt stainless. #6-0931
The above are just bolts, no special studs for accessories
TotallyStainless.com does not sell a water pump kit for 94/95 5.0L.
If the prices above are a bit steep you can piece them together with the information below:
Autozone carries 3 of the odd sizes, which includes 2 studs and one long bolt.
http://www.autozone.com/selectedZip...l/initialR,NONAPP15034/shopping/selectZip.htm
The Autozone part number is 23744.
Bolt Dimensions for Autozone (Motormite Inc.) 23744 bolts:
Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Cars & Trucks 3.8L, 4.6L, 5.0L, & 5.8L. Includes 1 bolt and 2 studs.
Bolt Size: 5/16"-18 x 5",
Stud Size: 5/16"-18 x 3/8" x 16 x 5-3/8" and 5/16"-18 x 3/8"-16 x 3-7/16".
Torrie at www.fastpartsnetwork.com can get you many of the bolts.
More measurements of the water pump/timing cover bolts:
Here are some specs on the OEM fasteners, going clockwise looking at the
front of the engine, starting at the lower passenger side:
All threads are 5/16-18 pitch except for the stud portion of #6-9
which is 3/8-16
#1 Stud/Bolt, OAL 3-5/16, UHL 2.25
Bolt threaded 1", shank 1.25 (1 + 1.25 = 2.25" UHL)
Flange head .25", 5/16-18 stud thread = 13/16"
1 + 1.25 + .25 + 13/16 = 3-5/16" OAL
Drive size is 1/2"
Notes: This bolt/stud clamps the TCC to the block, retains the
timing tab,
and the stud retains the support bracket for the AIR pump,
accessory nut is 5/16-18, 1/2" drive (not a flange nut, but
could be)
#2 Stud/Bolt, OAL 3-1/16, UHL 2.25
Bolt threaded 1", shank 1 (1 + 1 = 2" UHL)
Flange head .25", 5/16-18 stud thread = 13/16"
1 + 1 + .25 + 13/16 = 3-1/16" OAL
Drive size is 1/2"
Notes: Same as #1, but the shank is .25" shorter. This bolt/stud
clamps the
TCC to the block, and retains the timing tab. Stud may be unused
#3 Bolt, OAL 4-1/16, UHL 3-7/8
Bolt threaded 1", shank 2-7/8 (1 + 2/7/8 = 3-7/8" UHL)
Standard head 3/16"
1 + 2-7/8 + 3/16 = 4-1/16" OAL
Drive size is 5/8"
Notes: Clamps water pump to TCC and TCC to block
#4 Same as #3
#5 Bolt, OAL 2-7/8, UHL 2-11/16
Bolt threaded 1", shank 1-11/16 (1 + 1-11/16 = 2-11/16" UHL)
Standard head 3/16"
1 + 1-11/16 + 3/16 = 2-7/8" OAL
Drive size is 5/8"
Notes: Clamps water pump to TCC
#6 Stud/Bolt, OAL 3-7/16, UHL 1-15/16
Bolt threaded 1", shank 15/16 (1 + 15/16 = 1-15/16" UHL)
Standard head 3/16", 3/8-16 stud thread = 1-5/16"
1 + 15/16 +3/16 + 1-5/16 = 3-7/16" OAL
Drive size is 5/8"
Notes: Stud retains accessory, accessory flange nut is 3/8-16,
9/16 drive
Clamps water pump to TCC
#7 Same as #6
#8 Stud/Bolt, OAL 5-5/16, UHL 5-1/16
Bolt threaded 1", shank 2-7/8 (1 + 2-7/8 = 3-7/8" UHL)
Standard head 3/16", 3/8-16 stud thread = 1-1/4"
1 + 2-7/8 +3/16 + 1-1/4 = 5-5/16" OAL
Drive size is 5/8"
Notes: Stud retains accessory, accessory flange nut is 3/8-16,
9/16 drive
Clamps water pump to TCC and TCC to block
#9 Stud/Bolt, OAL 6-1/2, UHL 5-1/16
Bolt threaded 7/8", shank 4-3/16 (7/8 + 4-3/16 = 5-1/16" UHL)
Standard head 3/16", 3/8-16 stud thread = 1-1/4"
7/8 + 4-3/16 + 3/16 + 1-1/4 = 6-1/2" OAL
Drive size is 5/8"
Notes: Stud retains accessory, accessory flange nut is 3/8-16,
9/16 drive
Clamps water pump to TCC and TCC to block
#10 Bolt, OAL 2-1/4, UHL 2
Bolt threaded 1", shank 1 (1 + 1 = 2" UHL)
Flange head 1/4"
1 + 1 + 1/4 = 2-1/4" OAL
Drive size is 1/2"
Notes: Clamps TCC to block
#11 Same as #10
#12 Bolt, OAL 1-1/8, UHL 7/8
Bolt threaded 7/8", no shank (7/8 + 0* = 7/8" UHL)
Flange head 1/4"
7/8 + 1/4 = 1-1/8" OAL
Drive size is 1/2"
Notes: Clamps TCC to block (top, near intake)
#13 Same as #12
Ford studs use 5/16” on the engine side and 3/8” studs on the accessory side.
From Helmut Roner for timing cover/water pump bolts for no p/s and no a/c:
Lowes Hardware:
One 5/16 x 5½ inch @ $.47, Item # 55819.
Six 5/16 x 2 inch @ $.16 each, Item # 63319.
Three 5/16 x 4 inch @ $.28 each, Item # 63322
One 5/16 x ? inch @ $. , Item # ?????
The last one I typed I don't have, yet. It should be 2-3/4 to 3 inches long. I bought a 2½ and not much of the threads go far enough into the timing cover. It's for the bolt hole that is between the two water ports on the upper left of the water pump. I'll have that info later tomorrow.
The bolts for the water pump pulley to be used without a belt-driven fan are 5/16 x 3/4 24-thread. The two rearmost cover bolts which bolt the cover to the block (not shown) are 5/16 x 3/4 inch. I am scavenging those from an ARP bolt kit that I have which can't be used with late model timing covers. Only a few from the kit could be used as the kit was designed for older model 289/302/351W timing covers.
Good Luck
They are out of business Windsor-Fox Engineering if that is who you are referring to
tbovee
Member
Yeah, Windsor Fox is Out of Business. But if you saw them recently advertising in a mag please see if theres a phone number or address and pm me? They owe me $250.00 and a complete 90 fox wiring harness!!
Lemonade
Founding Member
Good luck! How did you pay for it? I don't think they have advertized lately. April 06 I finally decided to bite the bullit & pay $95.00 for the water pump bolts. They finally stopped responded to email, phone calls etc., website went down later in the year. I finally cancelled my cashiers check to get my money back.
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