RANT!!! Loud Exhaust, No Ac, 4.10 Gears, Sport Springs, Mega Power.

[Gearbanger 101]

@Gearbanger101

The 1000 dollar software system was to do what the factory ecu couldn't/wouldn't. Not much point running an egr with turbo.. and not dumb as implied..Stock engine and injection is a different story.

In case it wasn't obvious, I was being tongue and cheek with that response. When FoxMustangLvr curtly implied that neither your MS or his PiMP (re badged megasquirt) cared about smog, it was more my pointing out the obvious. The aforementioned systems are great for guys that can justify their purchase....but for your average bolt on, near stock Joe that just like to rip parts of their car and doesn't want to trip ECU codes, its hardly a practical purchase.

A little off topic, but: the whole thing about the smog equipement pumping fresh air into the convertor to reduce emissions, that just sounds like the contaminants are being diluted, not reduced. It's like saying river flows 1000 gallons of water, and 50% of it is contaminated. So, let's pump 1000 gallons of fresh water in and we can say it's only 25% contaminated.


Is this really how this works?

Joe

Secondary air injection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As far as clean air goes, there are still hundreds if not thousands of area's where there are no smog requirements and they have plenty of clean air.

Perhaps, but these are also area's vastly underpopulated, or heavily populated by newer, emissions compliant vehicles.....not busted out old hot rods like we're driving. Just because an area doesn't have a smog standard to meet, doesn't mean everyone immediately runs out to the driveway with a hack saw and cuts their converters off.

And @gearbanger101 I alternate DD duties between my stock fox w/o emissions and my intake/tune/exhaust coyote and I would bet a ham sandwich the fox would edge out the coyote in city driving. On the highway, the fox wins by a couple MPG. I can't prove it with stats ( I can start logging if I need to) but I can tell you that any RPM over 2k and the coyote drinks fuel. The fox hums along in the mid twenties.

Guess it all depends on how you drive it. I don't generally consider edging out the fuel mileage of a car weighing 600-700lbs more, that's making double the horsepower, while producing a fraction of the emmisions...all while promoting better drivability an enormous victory, but like you said, its all in the way you slice it.

 

[HotFox]

I like my non emissions 470hp , A/C removed, manual steering, 3" dyno max mufflers loud Mustang thank you very much!

 

[A5literMan]

I like my non emissions 470hp , A/C removed, manual steering, 3" dyno max mufflers loud Mustang thank you very much!

So you're not going to reinstall the a/c,smog pump,2.73's,e7 heads,2 1/4" exhaust w/cats anytime soon? What's wrong with you?

 

[HotFox]

So you're not going to reinstall the a/c,smog pump,2.73's,e7 heads,2 1/4" exhaust w/cats anytime soon? What's wrong with you?

Whats wrong with me? Hmmmm, I guess im too young yet, maybe some day I will be older and wiser. Im 35 btw...

I am adding tail pipes though...

 

[A5literMan]

Whats wrong with me? Hmmmm, I guess im too young yet, maybe some day I will be older and wiser. Im 35 btw...

I am adding tail pipes though...

Love the plate btw! Oh and I am 44 so I guess it's not just an "age thing".

 

[mikestang63]

So you're not going to reinstall the a/c,smog pump,2.73's,e7 heads,2 1/4" exhaust w/cats anytime soon? What's wrong with you?

don't forget the air silencer.

 

[A5literMan]

don't forget the air silencer.

How could I have forgotten that!

 

[CarMichael Angelo]

You need to get the monster on the road and help us kill our environment...

As per my gripes,..The monster will not be an offender of any of cited maladies on this thread.

It has A/C View attachment 539682

It will get 30 MPG (My part to reduce my carbon foot print)

It has 3.55 gears.

It Does NOT have a loud assed, chambered muffler. If it turns out to be loud, that will get fixed.]

It Does not have "Mega" Horsepower. (350RWHP/450 RWTQ)

It is NOT ready to drive to Texas.

** Stupid junk,....none of the appropriate smiley faces worked**

For the record, I've said it before. I build a car to drive. The red car got driven almost 12k miles in that 15 months that I kept it after finishing it. The Monster will take that to an even greater extreme, I plan to drive it to Vegas, and back.

 

[Boosted92LX]

As per my gripes,..The monster will not be an offender of any of cited maladies on this thread.

It has A/C View attachment 539682

It will get 30 MPG (My part to reduce my carbon foot print)

It has 3.55 gears.

It Does NOT have a loud assed, chambered muffler. If it turns out to be loud, that will get fixed.]

It Does not have "Mega" Horsepower. (350RWHP/450 RWTQ)

It is NOT ready to drive to Texas.

** Stupid junk,....none of the appropriate smiley faces worked**

For the record, I've said it before. I build a car to drive. The red car got driven almost 12k miles in that 15 months that I kept it after finishing it. The Monster will take that to an even greater extreme, I plan to drive it to Vegas, and back.

I'm trying to build a car to drive... but the carbon footprint thing...eh, I think I missed that mark.. lol. I tell ya, if you pull off 30 mpg I am going to be impressed man. Really.. I mean, even more impressed..

 

[Boosted92LX]

@madmike1157

I am getting closer though.. I was fiddling with my ac last night and the charge was low.. I added some 134a to it and the gauges were behaving very oddly.. then I realized there was a puddle of oil under the car.. turbo piping had melted a hole thru the rubber section of the orifice tube.. No wonder the charge was low.

 

[CarMichael Angelo]

@madmike1157

I am getting closer though.. I was fiddling with my ac last night and the charge was low.. I added some 134a to it and the gauges were behaving very oddly.. then I realized there was a puddle of oil under the car.. turbo piping had melted a hole thru the rubber section of the orifice tube.. No wonder the charge was low.

At least you didn't have to jack it back up again. Between you melting through hoses, Scott drilling through them, and me just not bothering to plug them, we are single handidly starting our own toxic landfill. Fortunately, the cement barrier helps with the containment issues.

To tell the truth, I have little more than a "reference" for the goals of this build. The mileage thing is based on what other "similar" 6 banger setups are getting. I can only say similar, because nobody else has the head, the intake, the F.I., or the roller cam in their combo's. Most 6 banger projects I'm referencing are doing that w/ a carb. The HP numbers are conservative, and the mileage figures are in line.

All of the other stuff is just smoke coming out my ass.


I get anywhere between 25 and 30 MPG on the highway, remain cool in the desert SW, be able to talk to my passenger, while not getting kicked in the kidneys from ride harshness, and it's a win.

 

[hoopty5.0]

If you don't swing through SE TX and have a beer with Allen and myself, I will be deeply offended.

 

[Boosted92LX]

If you don't swing through SE TX and have a beer with Allen and myself, I will be deeply offended.

Me too. I'm still regretting not stopping by to see the red car last time I was on that side of the country..

 

[FoxMustangLvr]

@madmike1157

I am getting closer though.. I was fiddling with my ac last night and the charge was low.. I added some 134a to it and the gauges were behaving very oddly.. then I realized there was a puddle of oil under the car.. turbo piping had melted a hole thru the rubber section of the orifice tube.. No wonder the charge was low.

Great, there goes the Oh Zone . I feel my skin burning already (or maybe it's skin cancer from surfing too much?)

 

[02 281 GT]

Funny how 37 other countries- mostly with no EPA type regulations- all rank above the US for air quality. Another false narrative promoted by the left for over regulation. Hell Russia gets a 94 score compared to the US at 96. Are people really that naive to think that if only WE regulate ourselves to death, that is going to solve the Earth's problems? All of the contaminents, pollution, and waste other countries develop are in the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the food we eat.

/rant off

Air Quality | Environmental Performance Index

It's crazy that Germany only received a score of 78.5 with an overall rank of 94 while the US is ranked 38. I would be comfortable saying that (almost) no one here removes smog equipment from their cars. Vehicle emissions testing and inspections are federally mandated rather than handled locally. Most cars around here are less than 20 years old as any car older than that rusted away long ago due to the massive amounts of road salt used in wintertime here.

Methinks that air quality likely has very little to do with the cars people drive and more to do with things such as manufacturing byproducts and electrical power production. Either that, or Germany had a much better score three years ago before I arrived with my de-catted and de-smogged '95 Cobra. I should go apologize to my neighbors.

I still have my AC, but it doesn't work.

 

[89oem]

Prevailing winds ?

 

[mikestang63]

Prevailing winds ?

Pining for the Fjords

 

[89oem]

Apparently its local

German cities show excessive air pollution levels | EurActiv

 

[CarMichael Angelo]

If you don't swing through SE TX and have a beer with Allen and myself, I will be deeply offended.

Me too. I'm still regretting not stopping by to see the red car last time I was on that side of the country..

Jeeze guys, I don't know if you know this, but if you do a mapquest from Birmingham al. To Las Vegas NV., " swinging by Houston" would be just a tad out of the way don't ya think?

 

[Boosted92LX]

Jeeze guys, I don't know if you know this, but if you do a mapquest from Birmingham al. To Las Vegas NV., " swinging by Houston" would be just a tad out of the way don't ya think?

It's only an inch or two. What's the big deal?