While at the WFC9, my buddy and I both picked up a couple pairs of these new Violator mufflers that Pypes is pimping out to the masses - hey, at $80 for a pair of straight-through design muffs, they were cheaper than Hookers, Dynomaxes, or Edelbrocks, and looked pretty solid. He's running a set of unknown-brand longtube headers and an off-road H with 2.5" Dynomax tails; I've got stock shorties, the ill-fitting UPR cat'ed X, and the same 2.5" Dynomax tails. Should be interesting to hear the difference in tone between the two setups. For anyone that hasn't seen 'em out of the box and in person, these muffs are frickin' UGLY. Hand-welded with little raw bits here of welding wire sticking out here and there, unpolished and unpainted. Just some basic heavy-duty, thick-skinned aluminized mufflers with a straight-through core (with little louvered cutouts in the tube). But then, nobody but myself is gonna be peeking at these things under there, anyway, so looks aren't much of a problem for me - they've got a fancy-schmancy polished stainless version available, for those so inclined to have the bling-bling going on under there. Just don't buy these things, thinking they're gonna have that neat n' fancy finished look to 'em like Dynomaxes or Flowmasters or something. Did anyone else grab a pair of these at the WFC9? ... or have already ordered some from their site? Happy/Unhappy with the sound? And did you install them in the "loud" position or "softy" mode? (Y'know, depending on which direction you had the notches inside the muff facing, since they're supposed to be reversable.) I was wanting something with a little more character and volume than my Dynomax Super Turbos, but I don't want to be annoying the heck out of the neighbors, and I don't want to be clawing my ears out from an annoying interior drone at cruise, either ... although having 4.10's (whereas my buddy has 3.73's) may make for a difference in whether or not my cruise RPM rests in the "drone zone." Here's to hoping I'm not disappointed when I go to boltin' these puppies on this Tuesday...
Umm ... now that you mention it, it does sound pretty depraved. Just add the word "of" in there and ... umm, nevermind...
Sounds to me like you will have rusted out mufflers in less than 6 months. The stainless steel mufflers offer more than just looks, they last a very long time due to their resistance to corrosion. Just my .02.
tell me how they sound, ive been looking for a cheap loud raspy muffler like slp without the big price. EDIT: im kind of confused, on the site, whats the difference between the "violater" and the "straight pipe" they show it being the same muffler, but the violater isnt a straight through design, its an offset muffler and is chambered, so do they have 2 different designs for the same muffler? Kinda sucks that the louder side has less airflow.
Rust? Ummm ... what's that? We don't have anything like that down here in the desert. Could you describe this "rust" stuff? Is it, like, a fungus or something? Seriously, rust is soooooo not an issue in Arizona. My car's been here for every year of its life, and the undercarriage is almost like new. Only rains about one month out of the year (with little sprinkles here n' there in winter), and no salt on roads or snow/ice storms. Thus, going for stainless down here does nothing but add to the bling factor. The Violators are different than the Race Pros in that the Violators have little notches cut out in the tube (I call them louvers, I dunno what the technical name is for 'em) and it makes the muff a reversible setup - turn it one way for louder, flip it around for quieter (although I'm not sure how much quieter they'd be, really). It's basically the same concept as those glasspack-looking mufflers that are reversible in the same way (can't remember the brand name, Summit sells them). Their Race Pro muffs are basically just a copy of Dynomax Ultra-Flos or Hooker Maximum Flows.
