To all, I was just curious about something. I currently purchased a 06 Mustang GT and was thinking about purchasing a vortech supercharger (before someone says something about the ken bell , yes I know you get more out of them, but I am going with vortech ). Well my question is, will I need to do work to the engine prior to installing it. The car will be an everyday used car, and I am planning to keep the psi low, probably at 8 or lower. Will I need to get better piston heads...Or anything else. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Vaff, I currently have the Vortech w/Precharger installed and all stock bottom end on my 05 without drivablity issues whatsoever. so my opinion is go with it and have a reputable tuner do the tune mild for ya
Oh and just enjoy the HP when you complete the install. A good set of gauges would be recomended as well I would go with a Wide band AF Ratio for starters and a Fuel pressure to follow it up
By precharger, do you mean the air-to-air intercooler??? Also, how much should I be looking at spending for the kit plus install? I just want to make sure I can still do a looking body kit work and paint (my car sustained too much sand/ rock desert damage on the front end and insurance had already fixed it once. I'm not sure they'd help me again.
Vortech kit on mine..love it with no issues whatsoever.>call my buddy sean at extreme mustang 818 883 8836 and tell him chris from B&M referred you. He will be the best price you can find on a vortech kit if you tell him I told you to call..he is my best friend and does all my work...
I would assume you are having it installed for you so expect around 1200-1500 bucks labor and the kit is 4000-4800 as far as precharger I mean a air to water precharger (Nice system BTW)
any of them work just fine any of them will work just fine .. I sell all three and can hook you up with anyone of them. 210-655-6546 for example my car i jsut retuned it on a mustang dyno The car previously made 523 rwhp on dynojet but the timeing numbers were rediculously safe and the air fuel was fat drove the car and beat on it all the time with that setting but decided to try for a lil more by fine tuning. Result 538 rwhp at 6000 rpm on a MUSTANG dyno set to a vehicle load of 3800 pounds. 11.7 air fuel straight across totaly safe and only 14 degrees total timing. in other words A VERY SAFE tune that is close to 590+ rwhp on a dynojet. car is set with a 6500 rpm rev limit and is shifted at 6 k mods 4.10 gears full length titanium jba headers matching jba h pipe magnaflow cat back cmrc deleete regap plugs to .030 novi 2k intercooled tuner kit makeing 10 psi at redline with my own fuel system mods and i reused the mass air from my c@l cold air kit
Vortech V2 S-trim on my daily driver 2007 GT automatic. 100% stock engine, suspension, and exhaust. Tuned very conservatively and drives great, performs great. No worries about the stock engine, unless you really crank up the boost, but at 8-12 psi, you should be fine.
Man, that non-IC kit you guys have on your GTs is really tempting me. I imagine you can get that kit installed in about four hours or so?
Running the Supershaker stock engine. The S/C from the major companies are very well put together kits. The Vortech is nicely done. The 3v engines can take quite a beating, and are a lot stronger than the previous ones. For me I go with the stay at 450 rwhp or less rule, and everything should be fine. Of course others are at 460+ with zero issues, but it also comes back to what you are doing with the car. For me, I am having fun on the street, and going to the track every now and again.
Actually, it's about 10-15 hours for a professional shop to install, or a weekend for a good backyard mechanic. I paid $899 to have my V2 S-trim (non-cooled) installed professionally.
Really? That surprises me considering there is not replacement of fuel pump and no aftercooler to mount. I think it took me about 10 to 12 hours to get the Vortech installed on my big car, and that included both pump and after cooler install. Is that 10-15 you quote just a very conservative estimate? If not, where's the complexity coming from that's slowing this up? Am I missing something, I'd think it would be BAP install, plugs and injectors and the actual mounting of the bracket and blower on the front of the engine.
Fuel pump does come out, and two go back in. Plugs, injectors, mounting plate, tapping the oil pan (unless you buy a self contained V3 - I have the V2), etc. Vortech's website says 10-12 hours for their 'average' system. The shop that did mine took 18 hours, billed me for 15. I know the technician that did the install well enough to know that's for real. I suppose if you did nothing but install Vortech's for a living, you could eventually whittle it down to 10 hours, but a good mechanic making sure everything is done right the first time without taking any shortcuts will easily be over 10 hours.
That's cool. Just seemed a little longer than what I anticipated based on my experience doing it myself. Their 10-12 hour estimate was about dead on for me. Absolutely my install would have been longer had I gone with a V2 and had to route the oil feed and return lines and tap the oil pan. If I'm not mistaken the Brenspeed no-ic kit uses a KB BAP instead of new fuel pumps. What's your opinion of that solution? On my big car I opted for a single GT40 pump. Any reason why that wouldn't work with a kit for the GT like the one Brenspeed sells? If I was to aim for about 8 - 9 psi with a kit like this I wouldn't need dual pumps would I?
I believe you're right about the BAP in the Brenspeed kit. I'm sure those work OK most of the time, but I've seen more than a few guys with BAP's run out of fuel pressure at higher rpm's. I'd feel better with the dual pump setup I have, or the GT40 pump like you have. The stock pump is only good to about 400 hp, IIRC. After that, more fuel is a critical.
I would also recommend checking into Brenspeed installing the kit themselves ( unless you are doing it ) as they have by far the most reasonable rates I've seen for installs not to mention someplace for somebody to stay while they are working on your car. Once I get around to supercharging my stang, I plan on having them do it... Then again, I have no idea where you live so if in Texas or someplace equally far, might not be the best deal. lol
I agree, by the time they give you the gas card, and the $100 off if you pay by check, cash or MO, it drops the install to less than $500 and you get to stay in their guest house so its like a little vacation. I can't wait to pay off my stang so I can do this.
