ChromeYellowGT said:Nobody will know for sure until it comes out, but the Mach 1 is pretty close to the 05 GT in power and weight(on paper anyways) and it has beaten the GTO stock for stock in 2 different Pontiac magazines. Here's the latest one if you care to see: http://highperformancepontiac.com/features/0407pon_gtotest/
scottie1113 said:On my way to work Friday morning at a little before 6:00 AM I got passed by a 68 GTO convertible with the top down. That car was sweet. I think the folks at Pontiac should be ashamed of themselves for bringing back the GTO name on a car like this.
holler said:The GTO is an old australian design. It's basically a Holden and a stop gap measure by GM until they reintroduce the camaro/firechicken. Its chassis has actually been around for awhile, and was tuned for more comfort then peformance, due to the Aussie's poor roads. I just saw Car and Driver TV the other day and they were really ripping on it from a handling standpoint, which surprised me. I would not be surprised if the new GT runs circles around it in the handling department.
holler said:The GTO is an old australian design. It's basically a Holden and a stop gap measure by GM until they reintroduce the camaro/firechicken. Its chassis has actually been around for awhile, and was tuned for more comfort then peformance, due to the Aussie's poor roads. I just saw Car and Driver TV the other day and they were really ripping on it from a handling standpoint, which surprised me. I would not be surprised if the new GT runs circles around it in the handling department.
scottie1113 said:I've been a Car and Driver subscriber for more years than you've been reading--that makes me 56 years old. Also to all the other major mags. There's a reason they all like BMW's--they handle incredibly well, some even go like bats out of hell, their build quality is excellent, and they look pretty, though I wonder where Chris Bangle is going to take them. On the downside, nobody likes idrive and repairs are expensve, not to mention the cars themselves.
As far as the general comments about the bland styling we've read in the majors about the GTO, that's called damning with faint praise. If you've read those publications for any length of time and can read between the lines, it means they hate it.
With good reason.
Mustang fanatics are going to scream when the 2005 Stang gets dissed for not having IRS, but folks, this is the 21st century and a great car should have a great suspension, at least as an option. Styling and 300 hp at a price point is great, but I think Ford should have gone a little farther to expand their market appeal.
Having said that, I think I'll climb into my bomb shelter to escape the frags from the younger fanatics here who will accuse me of being a commie for 1) reading, let alone liking liking, Car and Driver, and 2) suggesting that the Mustang is anything but perfect.