Why bother with teh regular bolt-ons?
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who ever said it was better? I was pointing out that your original post was incorrect on the numbers you listed.2002tj said:
Its a person's own car and their own money, I say let them do what they want. Just dont **** it up and turn it into a ricer mobile.
No I agree to let people do what they want with their cars. Just dont **** em up2002tj said:
Not to get into a large mechanical/engineering/ etc etc discussion, FI on our engines takes a great tuner to handle large amount of HP on the stock engines. N/A is more reliable usually.
hotmustang331
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2002tj said:
Well to get that HP, lets see. And note you can spend ALOT less on this stuff, but I bought good products.
JLT= 150
TB= 180
plenum=140
E Water pump= 300
U/D pulleys= 140
LTs=500
X pipe=200
Catback= 350
VT stg 1 cams= 549
windage trey W/ gaskets= 100
Tune=350
Chip I bought well before tune (wasted money really)= 325
About $3300. If you get stg 2 cams + 200 for springs, you would make about 300 or maybe a hair more.
Now with EVERYTHING including rims, gears, tubular K member, shifter, ect...I spent about $5500. Basically id have a bone stock GT with a 9PSI KB on it + then would need a tune from MPH =600. Then you will want gauges to keep an eye on everything (good 2-300) Im guessing it would make about 365RWHP cool. Hot on the street would be closer to 350. By the time you dial in the KB and get everything safe you will probably be looking at around $6500. Plus my car would weigh around 3500 vs 3250 now.
I honestly dont think it would be much faster, id say it would trap 110-111 if I was lucky. Would run like a stock terminator. (they go 106-111 down here...and they may be modded) So im happy with the way I went
. I have a good looking car that stands out and is pretty darn quick.
Q's Stang
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i like the way my exhaust sounds for starters...
wont a s/c be around 4.5k to 5k depending on make with the install and tune? kb 9 psi s/c's say they boost up 65% which would add anywhere from 139.xx-152.xx hp judging off a +/-10 hp interval on a solid stock 225 rwhp GT which would produce 354.xx-387.xx hp total if you play the numbers game...
im sure you would have more hp gains but id imagine that the cars would run close to the same investing 4.5k to 5k on bolt ons/suspension mods/tires b/c it would handle & shift better than a stock GT w/ just a s/c
wont a s/c be around 4.5k to 5k depending on make with the install and tune? kb 9 psi s/c's say they boost up 65% which would add anywhere from 139.xx-152.xx hp judging off a +/-10 hp interval on a solid stock 225 rwhp GT which would produce 354.xx-387.xx hp total if you play the numbers game...
im sure you would have more hp gains but id imagine that the cars would run close to the same investing 4.5k to 5k on bolt ons/suspension mods/tires b/c it would handle & shift better than a stock GT w/ just a s/c
Good analysis. Maybe you are right. Personally I am doing a coil-over suspension swap first, along with a shifter. Them probably teh Vortech.Q's Stang said:
fluffyrunnells
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2002tj said:
It is better, IMHO, to install parts one at a time, and make sure they work properly before slapping on another. If you already know that it takes bolt-ons to make the most out of a blower, why would you think it is "better" to put on the blower, then get around to prepping the car for it?
Other people's cars are their cars. They can do what they want with them, and I can like it or not. But it would be rude for me to suggest that someone who gained ~60hp from NA bolt-ons did something dumb by not shelling out far more money they might not have had. And typically, anyone who went the bolt-on route can still slap on a blower if they want, and put to shame all those who sprung for a blower on a stock car, with a safer tune to boot.
navarro98gt
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Wow, this seems like a very touchy subject for some people. I don’t think the original poster is knocking you N/A guys, he’s just trying justify spending $$$ for not so impressive gains.
If I didn’t buy an NPI car I would have gone straight for the mongoose kit. Next I would do suspension and build the rear to withstand hard launches.
If I didn’t buy an NPI car I would have gone straight for the mongoose kit. Next I would do suspension and build the rear to withstand hard launches.
fluffyrunnells
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fluffyrunnells
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2002tj said:It seems there are more than a few here who are a little hurt over this question
i dont think you get it......no one is hurt....its just preference.........why go and spend whatever you spent on a billet grill.......when you could have had a delete, or why do you have little chrome nuts on your wheels, when you could have gone chrome.........and its almost like talking down...(translation: cant they afford a charger..?)............its a weird question...........dont you know the answer or what..????
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