Oregon state police

[nwapache]

on my way back from Idaho yesterday, I got pulled over and ticketed by a stater....who said that he clocked me on radar while going the opposite direction both with a front mount and a rear mount radar???? Has anyone here been to traffic court over a stater giving them a ticket(in oregon)? Is this radar set up common down there? I think its BS I wasn't going as fast as he indicated, and have never heard of getting radar clocked with double radars.

Washington doesn't even radar people heading the other direction anymore because the readings don't hold up in court.

 

[LordMustangGT]

I don't know but when you find out let me know.

 

[almostblown]

I was clocked in Battle Ground from the opposite direction, took it to court and the judge wouldnt let me go. He lowered it.

I have never heard of a rear mount radar.

 

[nwapache]

thanks.....i've got to do some more research...google here I come

 

[Darkness]

Yep, you're screwed. Do you know how many people go to court and say they werent speeding or that the radar wasnt working right? Almost everyone lol Sorry that, but thats one thing I dont miss about Oregon, cops there are freakin sharks!

 

[Unbrdld07]

on my way back from Idaho yesterday, I got pulled over and ticketed by a stater....who said that he clocked me on radar while going the opposite direction both with a front mount and a rear mount radar???? Has anyone here been to traffic court over a stater giving them a ticket(in oregon)? Is this radar set up common down there? I think its BS I wasn't going as fast as he indicated, and have never heard of getting radar clocked with double radars.

Washington doesn't even radar people heading the other direction anymore because the readings don't hold up in court.

I had a trooper tag me after he went by me at night and so has county. I laughed cuz my detector went off both times and I was doing the speed limit. I was driving without the fog lights, thats why they both tagged after I went by.

 

[xsvstang]

I am not aware of any prohibition in Washington of radaring people going in the other direction.

Some agencies get lax in their yearly or bi-yearly calibrations. You can ask for the calibrations in court. However, that being said, I doubt that the state police are going to be lax on what amounts to their bread and butter.

Another option is to have a speedometer shop put your car on a speedometer dynometer and see if it is accurate. If it is not it is not going to excuse the speeding, but rather play a mitigating roll in it.

 

[nwapache]

There is no prohibition its just not that accurate. I will request the radar logs and whatever other evidence they have, and let you guys know. I haven't eaten a ticket in 12 years....and I don't plan on eating one now

 

[SMOKEDYA]

There is no prohibition its just not that accurate. I will request the radar logs and whatever other evidence they have, and let you guys know. I haven't eaten a ticket in 12 years....and I don't plan on eating one now

Damn 12 years and he gave ya one? I havent had one in over 3 years, i got stoped last sunday on 164th. I was getting on it then braking. Cop in a F150 pulled me over said well i didnt get an acurate reading cause you were braking at 65 mph. No ticket for me! This is making a long story short BTW. peace



john

 

[Darkness]

There is no prohibition its just not that accurate. I will request the radar logs and whatever other evidence they have, and let you guys know. I haven't eaten a ticket in 12 years....and I don't plan on eating one now

They calibrate their radars before starting shift, the cop will even say that in his statement, that he started shift at so and so hours and calibrated at so and so hours, etc, etc...

 

[wazazzle]

Do a search for "radar accuracy". I remember somewhere that there was a significant percentage of radar guns that are inaccurate. Or that like as much as 15% of tickets are innaccuately issued. Something to that extent. I say fight it what's the worst that can happen... you pay the stickin ticket.

 

[04bullit]

have a traffic attourney get it dismissed

most of them charge $250 which probably isnt much more then the ticket anyway and ull save on insurance if they get it dropped.....most also wont charge anything if they cant get it dropped or if they get it reduced then you would just pay the fine and then deduct that amount from the $250..........i just recently discovered this and will use it from here on out but i know of some people that have had 4 or 5 tickets dropped going this route

 

[wizbangdoodle]

I've been in court when some of these lawyers get people off from speeding tickets. I think it has something to do with the yearly calibration of the gun. The way I understand it, they have to get them checked every year or so. The officer also has to calibrate with a tuning fork after every citation he writes and at the beginning of his shift. I could be wrong, but I'll ask a friend of mine who is a state bull around Monroe.

 

[nwapache]

thanks everyone....I klnow that there is a common issue with calibration that gets a lot of people off from their tickets....hiring an atty might be a pretty good idea, if I can't figure it out myself....the ticket is $450 but its out of state so it shouldn't affect my insurance rates if I don't get it dropped.
I'll keep you guys updated. If I find out anything interesting i'll post it up for others to use

 

[saleenster]

on my way back from Idaho yesterday, I got pulled over and ticketed by a stater....who said that he clocked me on radar while going the opposite direction both with a front mount and a rear mount radar???? Has anyone here been to traffic court over a stater giving them a ticket(in oregon)? Is this radar set up common down there? I think its BS I wasn't going as fast as he indicated, and have never heard of getting radar clocked with double radars.

Washington doesn't even radar people heading the other direction anymore because the readings don't hold up in court.

Not true. Washington can and continues to radar either direction and either parts of the cruiser. In Clark County all the traffic units which I believe have increased to 5 now have radar on both ends of the cruiser. They use tuning forks at the beginning of shift to verify the radar is accurate which Darkness so described. Small towns like Ridgefield have a traffic cruiser that has radar on both ends as well so there are more then 5 in Clark County. They are using Choppers again to radar on I-5 between Woodland Longview, FYI

Btw, there is no radar log that I am aware of. They write notes of such items on the back of the ticket which is their portion of the copy. These are the comments the judge will read first before looking at the officers report.

 

[04bullit]

thanks everyone....I klnow that there is a common issue with calibration that gets a lot of people off from their tickets....hiring an atty might be a pretty good idea, if I can't figure it out myself....the ticket is $450 but its out of state so it shouldn't affect my insurance rates if I don't get it dropped.
I'll keep you guys updated. If I find out anything interesting i'll post it up for others to use

well if its $450 then it would be worth it to pay a lawyer.....u dont even have to go with them to court......they can go for you so you dont miss work

 

[ZeroCool]

CHP here in CA have radar on both ends of the vehicle, but enforcement is not like OR...Cruising speed here is about 80 if traffic permits it. Otherwise it's a parking lot most of the day.

 

[nwapache]

Radar at both ends is a total trip...thanks for the good info Saleenster...how do you know so much?

 

[eagleautosports]

My dad used to be a Chief Of Police and I almost became a cop myself. Do you know what kind of radar he was running? There's at 4-5 kinds and then there's Vascar. It isn't a radar system but a time calculator so it will not be picked up on radar detectors. If it was Vascar, it'll be hard to get it dropped or lowered. Of course, the judge will 90% of the time rule with the cop since they're such upstanding citizens... (insert sarcastic face here)

 

[1_of_34_01s]

Been pulled over several times speeding in excess of 100mph. The key is to never admit guilt, talk to the officer as if you are confused why you got pulled over, but do it with a smile and be courtious. I've been lazored, paced, videod and I do not have one single ticket on my record. If you decide to travel over 100mph+ be aware you might be going to jail. 15mph over is considered wreckless/negligent and they can take you in if they choose to do so. Alot of them won't if you are not endangering other vehicles...in other words do it where there aren't cars around you have to dodge and the cops might be cool. I've had them let me go before after they pulled me over to comment on how nice my car is. Also between shifts is a great time to speed. Cops are headed back to base while others are in the meeting room getting their briefing. Find out by visting your local state patrol precinct or finding and making one a friend. Check out http://mucklestone.com/ Hell I was on a video once where I could see myself from the state patrols vehicle and the officer was saying his speedo was pegged at 120 (Chevy Tahoe) and I'm pulling away rather quickly.

Jeannie is awesome!

Goodluck!