Cash for Clunkers.....

[KamiKaziDK]

Hey guys, I haven't been on in quite some time dealing with a lot of stuff in my personal life and what not, but I saw a cash for clunkers article and had to show this part of it.....pretty funny to me...

The Top Ten Cash for Clunkers Trade-Ins:

1. 1998 Ford Explorer

2. 1997 Ford Explorer

3. 1996 Ford Explorer

4. 1999 Ford Explorer

5. Jeep Grand Cherokee

6. Jeep Cherokee

7. 1995 Ford Explorer

8. 1994 Ford Explorer

9. 1997 Ford Windstar

10. 1999 Dodge Caravan


That's right!!! 6 out of 10!!! This destroys fords previous 24 hour lemans record of a 1, 2, 3 win. ford exploder

 

[BlownFiveLiter]

Hell, I think that's a good sign. I'm proud to see that people are still driving Explorers of those years. They only sold like 20 million of them during the 90's, and I think the fact that they're still on the road even though they're worth next to nothing now, attests to the quality that Ford puts into their vehicles.

 

[maypo59]

Yeah, no sh1t, since to use the cash for clunkers program, the car has to have been registered and insured for the last 12 months before trade in, it sure looks like there ain't many dodges or chevys still running...
I had a '99 limited I finaly traded last summer for a Expedition Limited, I had that '99 from mile 7 on the odometer to 178k, needed the abs sensor in the pumpkin (110k or so) and the auto antenna replaced (125k or so) other then that and normal tune up / service stuff, never let me down, never left me afoot. Saw it yesterday in town. The kid who has it now just turned 199k, and just returned from a trip to Texas. He said the rear window wiper will not go into high speed now.. I see no way to say a bad word about that truck.

 

[ProKiller]

i was pretty surprised at that list when i saw it too. i think that really goes to show the longevity of ford vehicles ranks up there with the foreign cars that people always praise.

 

[blksn955.o]

I am pissed as I am wanting to pick up #6 in the next few months. Looking for a 97-99 sport. Looking to get rid of our 01 ZX2 with 90k miles (no problems just a baby on the way and another 4 door and a 4x4 would be nice).

1. It is taking a big chunk of the stock nice ones out of circulation. As many of the people who would be looking to sell anyway are just trading them in and those are getting junked. Also anyone who "might" be selling anytime soon will do it NOW taking that much longer for good examples to come back on the market at a good (fair) price.

2. Since they can get $4,500 trade in people are asking $6,000 for 160k miles examples when a 99 sport with 10k miles RETAIL should bring that price. Going off KBB private party for a 100-130k mile example should be around $2500-3,500 and retail should be around $3,500-4,500. Two months ago this was accurate...not anymore.

Now I have to delay this and look for a small window before prices go up for the winter demand uptick due to bad weather.

 

[Black95GTS]

The dumba**** in congress just pumped another $2,000,000,000 into this stupid program.

At least George Bush would give the reach around when screwing us over.

Barry doesn't even use lube.

Adam

 

[wytstang]

Worst part of this is all those USEFUL 5.0's are being destroyed. All those gt40p heads and cheap cobra intakes are being destroyed. Thank you ass hats on CRAPital hill.

 

[turbogt]

Most Stupid ****ing government program I have ever heard of...

Destroying perfectly functioning running vehicles to save on average 10 mpg.

What about all the energy and pollution that was created to build these new cars?

 

[divit250r]

Most Stupid ****ing government program I have ever heard of...

Destroying perfectly functioning running vehicles to save on average 10 mpg.

What about all the energy and pollution that was created to build these new cars?

Not to mention the energy and pollution created by taking the old ones off the road. Of course, it sells cars that Government Motors now owns in the process, so it's all for our own good, right? This is just more proof that big politicians aren't in touch with anyone who has to work for their paycheck.

 

[revhead347]

Most Stupid ****ing government program I have ever heard of...

Destroying perfectly functioning running vehicles to save on average 10 mpg.

What about all the energy and pollution that was created to build these new cars?

I hate to see people throwing away perfectly good cars, but to be honest with you, this program has just about turned the economy around. The big 3 were in deep doo doo 3 months ago, now they can't build cars fast enough to keep up. The vast majority of those Explorer's are V6s. If you have a V8, and it runs, it's usually worth more than $4500. So not that many good 5.0 parts being messed up. I don't like the principle of the program, but I think it's worth it in the end. Huge improvement in fuel efficiency, and more cars being sold.

Kurt

 

[earleys94gt]

The big 3 were in deep doo doo 3 months ago, now they can't build cars fast enough to keep up.

6 of the 10 most bought cars with the Clunkers program are either Toyota's, Honda's or Hyundai's.

 

[Danman765432]

That because Chrysler didnt have a huge stock of there cars available because they stopped making them. Every single Jeep patriot and compass that qualifies for the program is gone within a 50 mile radius of me not to mention the same thing is starting to happen with the Dodges.

 

[revhead347]

6 of the 10 most bought cars with the Clunkers program are either Toyota's, Honda's or Hyundai's.

Pretty representitive of their market share in economy cars. That's going to be the statistic regardless of what program is in place.

Kurt

 

[KamiKaziDK]

I hate to see people throwing away perfectly good cars, but to be honest with you, this program has just about turned the economy around. The big 3 were in deep doo doo 3 months ago, now they can't build cars fast enough to keep up.
Kurt

Big 3??? As I recall, Ford was going up while the other two were tanking....don't bring Ford into the big 3 argument, Mulally is the man!!! Not to mention....who do you think is paying for this 3 billion dollar program??? I know I'm not getting a new frickin car out of it...but I'm sure as hell gonna pay for all these other *******s to get one

 

[revhead347]

Big 3??? As I recall, Ford was going up while the other two were tanking....don't bring Ford into the big 3 argument, Mulally is the man!!! Not to mention....who do you think is paying for this 3 billion dollar program??? I know I'm not getting a new frickin car out of it...but I'm sure as hell gonna pay for all these other *******s to get one

Yeah, you might not get a new car out of it, but if the economy turns around because of it, you're going to be better off. If this amongst other government programs improves the economy within a year or so, you'll easily makeup $4500 on your 401K. You got to look at the big picture on these things.

And Ford isn't much better off than GM, that's a misconception. The only difference is that Ford secured private financing back in 2002 to cover their enormous debts, while GM did not, and is now borrowing money from the Government.

Kurt

 

[wytstang]

You can't save the economy by taking money from one person and giving it to another. Thats not stimulating thats spreading the wealth. Domestic Automakers are still losing money per car, that hasn't changed from what I know.

 

[revhead347]

You can't save the economy by taking money from one person and giving it to another. Thats not stimulating thats spreading the wealth. Domestic Automakers are still losing money per car, that hasn't changed from what I know.

Well, kind of. They are taking money from the future to fix today. It's all deficit spending, so they aren't really taking money from one person and giving it to another. Not to start a huge political debate, but you have to spend money to make money. The current administration is using the same methods to stimulate the economy that Bill Clinton used back in 92'. When BJ Bill came into office in 92', he spent $12 billion right off the bat to stimulate the economy. By the time he left office in 2000, the GDP was so strong, they had balanced the federal budget. Of course the current administration is spending a great deal more money to try and fix things faster. We'll just have to wait and see if it works.

Kurt

 

[KamiKaziDK]

Yeah, you might not get a new car out of it, but if the economy turns around because of it, you're going to be better off. If this amongst other government programs improves the economy within a year or so, you'll easily makeup $4500 on your 401K. You got to look at the big picture on these things.

And Ford isn't much better off than GM, that's a misconception. The only difference is that Ford secured private financing back in 2002 to cover their enormous debts, while GM did not, and is now borrowing money from the Government.

Kurt

I don't have a 401k. The big picture is Obama and the gov't are ****ing me. And Ford is better off, because it's not owned by our gov't, they have their own debt and own loans. GM isn't borrowing money from the gov't, THEY'RE OWNED BY THEM.....isn't that called communism?? 700 billion to banks, and they don't know what happened to most of it.....the gov't owns what was the worlds largest automaker for something like 40 years, this is a joke. 3 billion dollars for people to buy new cars....that I'm going to pay for, I don't get an new car, I don't get a better place in life, I don't care about A-hole CEOs getting 7 digit payouts.....what I do get is a tax increase. Anyone buying into this obama saving the economy is ignorant; he's ruining our future, our childrens future, and their childrens future with this increased debt he's putting on America.

 

[Black95GTS]

Lets think about this another way. People that are driving clunkers drive them because they can't afford new cars. So now you have a bunch of people driving brand new cars, financed out their backsides, that couldn't afford them until Obama's magical program... sounds eerily like Clinton's magical program that allowed people with crap credit to buy $600K houses with no down payment. How did that end?

GREAT thinking. Furthermore, you require mileage quotas from the newly purchased cars, yet don't give time for your domestic brands to complete engineering required to tune up their own designs. So all the money goes to the foreign car companies, who have been making listless, lame, tiny econoboxes for years. This program sucks and the meager benefit from it will bite us in the ass in 2-3 years, I'll bet money on it.

Adam

 

[wytstang]

Rev we will agree to disagree on this subject. Taking future funds is code for making the next generation pay for what the passing and current generation has done. I just can't get on aboard with that.