Wendell Scotts 360 was a truck wedge engine. he did not have the money for a 427 let alone a custom desrtoked 427. they got it from a wrecked pickup and built it themselves and won the race with itD.Hearne said:
Umm, I'm curious about the build up. At the end which engine was bigger and heavier?PoliceInterceptor said:
. Stephen I have seen you post many times asking engine questions and I suppose you plan to make a swap soon...If you want my personal...not professional opinion...go for a 351W. With the aftermarket availibility...you could stroke it out to a 393 and woop the pants off a 390 and still have the option to supercharge or fuel/nitrous injection for more go. just because it sounds like a good deal doesn't mean it is. Search for a little longer for a good ole windsor and build it to crush the competition.There was a destroked 427 Nascar motor, using the 330's crank but it specs out at 371 cid. There may have also been a sleeved version to decrease the bore size to get to 360 also. A 4.13 bore with a 3.3 crank would get you 353 inches. I seriously doubt anyone winning a Nascar race with a garden variety 360 FE unless the rest of the cars in the race DNF'd. I don't recall which, but there was a cast crank version of the FT in the 70's it was the 359 and 389. The 361 and 391's had the steel cranks. As for the nickle block thing, probably the foremost authority on FE's has done extensive research into the casting techniques and has found NO evidence of Ford ever using nickle in their blocks. It appears to be an uban legend of sorts.cobra232 said:
Sure Ford put more of them in station wagons and pickups, but what I said, was there were more of them in Stangs and Fairlanes/Torinos than 428's and 427's combined. And a 390 isn't all that more heavy than a 351W. Dress one with aluminum heads and intake and it'll weigh less than a factory Windsor. As for optimum bore/stroke ratios. that's debateable. Stroke a Windsor to equal a 390, and whatever advantage you saw there disappears.Hack said:I stand behind what I said before. I hear what D.Hearne and others are saying about the 390 making a lot of power, and Ford put a lot of them in Mustangs? I would have expected that Ford put most 390s in station wagons and pickups, though.
The 390 is more suited to a pickup or a station wagon, because it's heavy and torquey. The bore/stroke ratio is not optimum for high revs.
D.Hearne said:
i have chemically tested 361,391FT blocks and a 427. both had high nickel content compared to a 352,a 360 and 3 390's i tested.D.Hearne said:There was a destroked 427 Nascar motor, using the 330's crank but it specs out at 371 cid. There may have also been a sleeved version to decrease the bore size to get to 360 also. A 4.13 bore with a 3.3 crank would get you 353 inches. I seriously doubt anyone winning a Nascar race with a garden variety 360 FE unless the rest of the cars in the race DNF'd. I don't recall which, but there was a cast crank version of the FT in the 70's it was the 359 and 389. The 361 and 391's had the steel cranks. As for the nickle block thing, probably the foremost authority on FE's has done extensive research into the casting techniques and has found NO evidence of Ford ever using nickle in their blocks. It appears to be an uban legend of sorts.
Now you're trying to make it sound like I advocated sticking the 390 into a 65-66, which I did not. You need to go back and read what i posted. As for small tube headers, that's not necessarily going to hurt a larger cube motor, especially on the street. I've run relatively restricted Shelby Tri-Y's with a 7500 rpm Canfield headed roller 5.0 and the way it pulled all the way up to there, you'd never guess they were there. Bigger isn't always better.blown65 said:
yuck. that's like putting a 350 in a 40 chevy. yeah $hit is cheap for them but who hasen't done the windsor or 350 chevy?65straightsick said:You save money on the front end work and you have more horsepower and torque for the same amount with a lighter engine. Unless you would want to brag about having an FE...there is no reason you shouldn't stroke a windsor. Like Blown said...it is more of a budget motor...but it is still fast
). Hey man, if you want to go for it, you'd be unique and I'd give you a high five when I saw it.
65straightsick said:
). I'll take on all comers from a windsor based, N/A motors. The motor will be in a '63 Fairlane clone of the T-bolt prototype from Tasca. Anticipated numbers will be from the high 9 second to low 10 second range in a car weighing around 2800#.
