Aluminum Master Cylinder - Manual Disks?

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  1. phutch11 New Member

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    I've got Scarebird disk brakes on my 66 with drums out back. I need to move to a new master cylinder as my current one is a dual for a 1967 with drums all around.

    I know that the 74 Maverick is what is recommended, but I'd like to move away from the heavy cast iron MC and to a modern aluminum MC with a plastic reservoir.

    I've heard of people running a 1993 Ranger master or one from a Cobra - 1995, I think.

    The Cobra is way too much - $150; and the Ranger's diameter is close, but not dead on.

    Anyone with manual disks running a modern aluminum MC?

    Thanks
  2. Grabber70Mach New Member

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    If I remember correctly look at a 94-95 5.0 mustang. I think that is the one I used when I did my conversion.
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    Pedal feel good?

    Good travel and ability to modulate?

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    I have an aluminum dual bowl master...I used one from an '84 t-bird....some of these are aluminum and some are cast iron...remanned it was $25 at autozone...however the ports are on the engine side so it would require new lines...but mine is still the old style without the plastic resevoir(I hate how cheap they look)

    p.s. 7/8" bore so its great for manual brakes
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    I have Wilwood 4 wheel discs on my '66 and run the Ford D9AZ-2140-A master cylinder. It is all aluminum (no plastic) so it looks good in the engine compartment, has a 1" bore, and is much lighter than the big cast iron ones.
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    Just for the record, I found data that a MC from a 1993 Dodge Spirit would work- it doesn't work.

    Just going with the old heavy 74 Maverick.
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    Sorry for the late reply, my setup is PDB and I just noticed that yours is manual. Mine works fine, but not really sure how it would work in a MDB setup.
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    I'm in the same boat, except I Have power discs as well. I currently have the SN95 master on there, but it has a rock hard pedal feel.. It's 1 1/16 I believe, wondering if I should step it down to a 15/16 or so?
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    7/8 and 15/16 are the sizes I'm use to seeing in a manual brake setup.
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    Agreed. So I wonder why my 1 1/16 is far too stiff with a power booster. And if stepping down to a 15/16 will make my pedal hit the floor.
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    It should make your pedal effort easier but if you are having stiffness issues with the current setup, I would see if you have an issue with your booster as it is. Is the pedal just as stiff without the boosters assistance as it is with assistance ?
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    Pedal does sink a bit when the car is started. As well it seems to hold pressure (it's a brand new remanned). However, what I found odd, is while driving on some gravel (Car isn't road worthy yet) I was testing the brakes. If I hammered on this brick of a pedal, the fronts locked, but the rears wouldn't, even with the adjust. prop valve all the way to the rear, but they bled fine, so I"m stumped.
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    Do you have drums in the rear ? Is there a residual pressure valve in the drum circuit ? Is it put in the proper direction ?
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    Nah, SN95 discs in the rear, stock 68's up front. SN95 master, plumbed correctly (front to rear, etc), going into a simple Tee for the fronts. Rears go directly from the M/C to the prop valve. As I said, I'm stumped. Vacuum is good.
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    Now that we have completely hijacked the thread....


    What power booster are you using ?


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    Actually, make another thread for this... it should really be on its own.
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    Yeeeeeah, I apologize for that. But it's still helpful to the OP. ;) Remanned Bendix. I was alternating between 10 and 15" vacuum.
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    No worries I,m all set with a vast iron boat anchor of a MC.

    You may need a residual pressure valve in the rear circuit to keep enough fluid back there to get those rear discs to work.

    What pedal are you using?

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    Never heard of anyone using a residual valve on rear discs, unless they are higher than the M/C or some such.. Using the correct power pedal. I guess all I can do is change the M/C and see what kind of difference it makes. Or test the pressure at each caliper, but I really don't feel like buying another tool. haha

    Don't suppose there is an online calculator, or anyone knows the equation of piston bore to m/c bore to pedal travel?
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    ill chime in with my 98 explorer m/c im running brakes from a 73 on both ends, pedal feel is firm but not bad, but im not sure i would like it if the car was an automatic. the only problems i remember were finding adapters to the metric bungs
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    are you using power brakes as well?

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