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Discussion in '2010 - 2014 Specific Tech' started by cougar_68, Sep 12, 2009.
^^^ Read my latest post in the 2011 Mustang Leaked thread.....theres hope for you yet
That was an exciting read. Only a couple things that concern me:
1. Can they build the 3.5L EcoBoost w/out AWD, as that could very well be what the white car is.
2. The white car also could have been a 4 cyl EcoBoost. I don't think they said the white car was the one keeping up with the M3.
I don't think AWD EcoBoost Mustang is as far fetched as it seems...could really go either way. You all know what I'm hoping for though!!!
Wanna talk about disappointed? You should've seen the tears I shed when I found out the new Camaro was going to weigh 3850 lbs. I had every intention of getting one. I was probably just going to suck it up and accept the "Hot Wheels" look of it, but the weight was too much to bear.
I always had this "dream" of custom-ordering a brand new Camaro, but GM stuck a fork in that one. That's okay because Ford's building me the car that GM wouldn't; a car like the Mustang! If Ford puts the Eco-Boost in the GT, I can accept that, but what I really want is a V8 GT. Even the best V6 isn't a substitute for the feel of a good ol' American V8.
Yeah, I hope the GT remains V8. With everything I have been reading though, I wouldn't be surprised to see V6 EcoBoost.
I would be surprised however if they replaced the 4.0L with 2.0L EcoBoost, kept the GT a V8 (5.0L) and the Shelby a SC 5.0L/5.4L or 6.2L, all while also offering the 3.5L EcoBoost. 4 engine offerings...not likely.
Like I said though, I will still be disapointed if they offer the 3.5L EcoBoost and it isn't AWD. Which is probably what will happen.
While I think it would be an interesting idea to make an AWD Mustang, I just don't think it would be cost-effective for Ford to do it. It would probably require an entirely different platform. I voted that it would be a cool idea, but I probably wouldn't buy one.
Even though it would be interesting to see an AWD option, I'm not going to lose a minute of sleep if it doesn't happen. As far as me, I wouldn't even give it a glance. For me, when I'm in the market for an American Muscle Car, I refuse to settle for anything but RWD, manual transmission, and a V8.
and under 3600 lbs.!!! LOL!
Most importantly! LOL!
More food for thought:
Fastest production Buick and still collector car today: Buick Grand National GNX. This was a 3.8L Turbo V6 with 276HP and 360 lb-ft torque.
Fords 3.5L twin turbo V6 is 355/365 hp (at 1100RPM higher than GNX) and 350 lb-ft torque (at 500RPM higher). That's almost 100 more horsepower with similar torque, granted at higher RPM levels. Not to mention, there is plenty of room for HP/Torque gains.
I will give you AWD might not be as fun (depends on your definition) to drive as RWD, but who wants to replace there tires every summer anyway? Fun for me is slamming the peddle down on wet or snowy pavement and having my vehicle jump off the line like it was a dry sunny day.
I went through tires like crazy in 2WD mode on my '93 Exploder. The Auto 4WD was welcomed on my '97. I couldn't even get that thing to spin the tires on wet pavement. Now my '01 doesn't have the Auto and I really miss it.
Hopefully I will be able to trade the '01 Exploder in on an AWD Mustang.
Doesn't quite work that way with AWD, at least not in my STi. I'm running a set of all-season tires on it now, and while yes, you can launch in the rain without wheelspin and drive it like it's a sunny day (in a straight line), in the snow, the tires will spin just like on anything else.
I think I could enjoy an AWD Mustang as long as it had a RWD bias....like maybe 35/65.
Hmmm...My wife has an '07 Impreza and it drive pretty good in the snow. It has 130 hp less than your STI though. Probably makes a difference. lol.
When driving normally does it do ok in the snow?
It's good in snow as long as it doesn't have the stock Bridgestone Potenza RE070s on it. Those are "summer only" tires, so you can imagine they're like running through snow on slicks. Even in the owner manual, Subaru states not to drive in the snow with those tires.
I have Continental Conti-Extremes on it and they're an all-season performance tire, and they're okay. Last year some idiot wanted to make a run at me on a back-roads trail in the snow and I used the car for what it was made for; Rally! I made it around this corner and the idiot in his Honda CR-V...didn't. He wound up kissing a tree. Normally, I would've stopped to help him out, but he was a real tool. I was trying to navigate this road slowly and safely, and he found it necessary to continuously flash his brights at me and make obscene gestures out his window at me. He could've sat back there and froze to death, for all I cared.
Anyway, even though it's AWD, you still have to be careful. It does have an awesome AWD system though where you can lock the differential to provide up to 50/50 traction, and you can adjust it all the way to a RWD bias at 35/65, which dials in a little bit more oversteer. While my driving skills aren't good enough to "explore" it to the limit to see how well it works, I've heard that it does. I don't notice much difference with it, even when hanging corners on the back roads. I'm sure the car's limits are beyond mine.
Me too, unless you can do this. lol.
HOLY CRAP that looks like FUN
I couldn't drive like that to save my life...or that poor guy on the segway, I wouldv'e run him over lol
It's pretty intense to watch. Could you imagine being in the passenger's seat?!
I've seen that video of Ken Block a few times, and every time I watched it, my jaw just dropped. That guy is amazing. I'd pay big money to ride shotgun for a ride like that!
Well since i can't drive my mustang in the winter because it can't move id take AWD or 4wd in a secound, but only if i can put it into 2wd when i want, that would be fun.
The poll numbers are still great! 25% are seriously interested, 46% think it would be cool, 20% don't give a hoot and that leaves less than 10% that are completely opposed. Really not what I expected but great nonetheless.
It would be cool to be able to go RWD or AWD. Call it "sport" mode or something. It's not a "must have" for me, but it is welcomed. Beggers can't be choosers though, so if it's all time AWD, I'm not complaining.
EcoBoost gets a vote.
AWD does not.
Like what's been said, it is going to take a major revamp of the mustang platform to get it to work right. It simply wasn't designed with that in mind. Also, this being an "economical" sports car, I don't think ford would put in premium parts to outlast people's driving whims. Go ask about launching those AWD evo's or sti's. They require finesse and even then, that can lead to breakage. But I'm sure some already know of that.
I voted yes to the Ecoboost TT because like any turbo'd car, mods and huge hp gains are easily attainable with intake, exhaust, and most importantly a tune. If they offered even the 315hp version, 400hp minimum would be easy as pie with the correct tune.
Ok, Mr. IliveinTexas. What is this snow you speak of?
I think the ability for the driver to turn the AWD off or send a good portion of the power to the rear would be key here. I think that would make the AWD more acceptable for a lot of people.