Zinc001 said:Everyone keeps talking about having irs or solid rear axle. So why don't we do our own poll and see what comes out of it.
rhumbline said:In my estimation, outside the very narrow, peculiar and esoteric realm of hard core drag racing, which in reality would only account for a very small, if vociforace, fraction of Mustang buyers, a good IRS represents a far better overall ride AND handling solution.
While a live axle can be made to handle well, at least on very smooth roads, that is achieved only at a far greater detriment to compliance and ride quality, basically you can have either one or the other -- good ride OR good handling -- but not both.
With a good IRS, you can have your cake and eat it too, garnering excellent handling abilities over a far greater range of road surfaces all the while retaining far better ride qualities.
For narrowly focused drag racers, which are disproportionally represented on this board, that simply is not important.
For the vast majority of Mustang owners, those improved ride AND handling qualities, even if they aren't aware of how they are achieved technically, are significant benefits they are sure to enjoy in real world (off track) conditions.
rhumbline said:In my estimation, outside the very narrow, peculiar and esoteric realm of hard core drag racing, which in reality would only account for a very small, if vociforace, fraction of Mustang buyers, a good IRS represents a far better overall ride AND handling solution.
While a live axle can be made to handle well, at least on very smooth roads, that is achieved only at a far greater detriment to compliance and ride quality, basically you can have either one or the other -- good ride OR good handling -- but not both.
With a good IRS, you can have your cake and eat it too, garnering excellent handling abilities over a far greater range of road surfaces all the while retaining far better ride qualities.
For narrowly focused drag racers, which are disproportionally represented on this board, that simply is not important.
For the vast majority of Mustang owners, those improved ride AND handling qualities, even if they aren't aware of how they are achieved technically, are significant benefits they are sure to enjoy in real world (off track) conditions.
66Satellite said:You left out cheaper and more durable. You don't have to go to the track to appreciate those two advantages. Sure, if you plan to push your car to the limits in the twisties, or you're an old guy with a bad back, IRS is better. But if you're a knuckle dragging American car enthusiast you might apprecaite having the extra $1500 for mods or gas or beer.
66Satellite said:You left out cheaper and more durable. You don't have to go to the track to appreciate those two advantages. Sure, if you plan to push your car to the limits in the twisties, or you're an old guy with a bad back, IRS is better. But if you're a knuckle dragging American car enthusiast you might apprecaite having the extra $1500 for mods or gas or beer.
I agree as well. My last three cars (Murker,300zx,240sx) all had IRS and you cannot even begin to compare the difference. I will be getting an 05 or an 06 Mustang either way, but wish that they would make it an option. I may go the route of an 06 Cobra, but the price is so much higher because of everything else you get with the Cobra.rhumbline said:In my estimation, outside the very narrow, peculiar and esoteric realm of hard core drag racing, which in reality would only account for a very small, if vociforace, fraction of Mustang buyers, a good IRS represents a far better overall ride AND handling solution.
While a live axle can be made to handle well, at least on very smooth roads, that is achieved only at a far greater detriment to compliance and ride quality, basically you can have either one or the other -- good ride OR good handling -- but not both.
With a good IRS, you can have your cake and eat it too, garnering excellent handling abilities over a far greater range of road surfaces all the while retaining far better ride qualities.
For narrowly focused drag racers, which are disproportionally represented on this board, that simply is not important.
For the vast majority of Mustang owners, those improved ride AND handling qualities, even if they aren't aware of how they are achieved technically, are significant benefits they are sure to enjoy in real world (off track) conditions.
Zinc001 said:I agree as well. My last three cars (Murker,300zx,240sx) all had IRS and you cannot even begin to compare the difference.
Ron Jeremy said:Let IRS "ONLY" be an option. You hear? ONLY and option. By adding IRS as standard equipment, the Mustang GT will deviate from being a straight line drag musclecar anymore. IRS is not good for drag racing. Period. I don't care what you IRS fanatics think. It will also make the car more expensive to buy. But for the people in here that want IRS to be available, have it "ONLY" as an option and NOT as standard equipment. And be prepared to get ripped off even more by Ford if you buy a GT with IRS.
Ron Jeremy said:Let IRS "ONLY" be an option. You hear? ONLY and option. By adding IRS as standard equipment, the Mustang GT will deviate from being a straight line drag musclecar anymore. IRS is not good for drag racing. Period. I don't care what you IRS fanatics think. It will also make the car more expensive to buy. But for the people in here that want IRS to be available, have it "ONLY" as an option and NOT as standard equipment. And be prepared to get ripped off even more by Ford if you buy a GT with IRS.