Off Road X-Pipe Vs a Catted X-Pipe Performance Questions

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  1. gonen20 New Member

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    Whats the performance difference between a Catted X-Pipe & an Off Road X-Pipe for a 99 to 04?? What about the sound of an Off road pipe! Is it significantly louder then a catted one?? Too Loud while cruising?? Anybody have an opinion on Magnaflow vs Bassani! I think the best sounding combo I've heard on these year Mustangs was a Bassani X-Pipe and Magnaflow Magnapak Exhaust together but that car had cats on it too!
  2. marcus95 New Member

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    Don't bother with the no cat. It will drone and it's considerabley louder. The new high flow cats these days don't hinder performance at all. The only x-pipe I bother spending money on is the Bassani stainless x-pipe with two stanless cats. There is no need to spend money on anythin else.
  3. HazeGray New Member

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    +1 :D

    I have some video/sound clips of my new exhaust setup, but it just doesn't do it justice. I had the opportunity to get a Bassani off-road X-pipe and a lot of people gave me the same response Marcus did...considerably louder. I went with the catalytic X-pipe more for inspection reasons. I don't feel like swapping in the stock H-pipe before the inspection and then swapping back to the X-pipe afterwards. I think the biggest factor is price...the catalytic X-pipe is a bit more than the off-road version. I just happened to come across a great deal.
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    When you drop the cats, regardless of the muffler set-up & midpipe, you will get a less-deep tone. I've bounced all over the place with various set-ups and questioned many people on their set-ups and it seems that the cars I tend to like the most have high-flow cats. What really tends to make a difference in sound and will allow you to keep your car legal (in some states) are some longtube headers, catted h-pipe, and some Magnaflow mufflers. The cars with the most muscle-sounding exhausts tend to have a similar set-up IMO. An O/R X of H-pipe tends to sound rather raspy until you are wide open in the mid to upper RPM range. Not that they don't sound good, but it is a different kind of sound good. I'm currently running an O/R X-pipe with Magnaflows and it sounds pretty mean....until I hear someone with some JBA longtubes, JBA highflow catted midpipe, and some JBA mufflers at which point it sounds like my car is falling apart in comparison.
  5. Saleen87-65 New Member

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    i got a friend selling a bassani catted x pipe for $250 shipped...just say the word :)
  6. 2004#290 New Member

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    Sorry for the dumb question, but what are O/R's?
  7. THX 138 New Member

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    off-road = not smog legal = no cats
  8. Saleen87-65 New Member

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    you make it sound so negative LOL
  9. marcus95 New Member

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    Ha ha.

    Yea, he made it sound serious because we have smog nazis out here in Los Angeles. We even have random stops on highways sometimes and a mobile sniffer is there to test the tailpipe. He he.
  10. SVT Saleen New Member

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    Ditto on what Marcus said.

    When I replaced the factory 4 cat H-pipe on my '89 Saleen I could have chosen either an off-road or a catted pipe as I was not living in a smog inspection state @ the time. However, I chose the latter version because I wanted the car to remain smog legal in case inspections became an issue & also because I thought it was the right thing to do.

    Good thing, too, because even with the cats the car failed the visual inspection when I returned to San Diego & I had to research the CARB website to find the applicable EO's that allows a 5.0 Mustang to replace 4 cats with 2 cats.
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    I wouldn't pass up that deal.... if your worried about being too loud.. I have heard the mac pro chamber is not as raspy.. lower tone... here in ontario we just have the e-test every other year... so I just have to rebolt my old h back up...
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    I briefly tried a VRS off road X on my 99 Saleen. Pulled it off after a week, it
    droned so bad it gave me a headache. I currently have a Magnaflow X with
    cats along with the Borla's and it sound good when you hit the loud pedal and
    reasonable the rest of the time.
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    My car has a BBK O/R X-pipe, with 40 Flow Masters. It was way too loud, and raspy for my taste. It is in the shop right now having some Magnaflow Cats welded in, and I am replacing the Flowmasters with Magnaflows. I think this will give me what I want as far as that low toned, muscle car sound.
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    Off roads tend to make the exhaust "rattle" more than I would like, -hi-flow cats are the way to go, sound and performance.
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    My brother owns an '04 Gt with a vortech supercharger. His car made 366rwhp with the original cat pipe. We swapped it for a UPR Offroad x- pipe and put it back on the dyno. It then made 384rwhp. Not too bad for $159 bucks. That offroad X along with the flowmaster catback sounds pretty nice. Very raspy. "He likes it"
    Funny thing, His birthday was last month and the damn thing passed emmisions. They didn't do a visual but it burned clean enough I guess.

    I put an offroad H-pipe on my SSC breifly to see how I liked it. I had it laying in the shop so I figured "what the heck".I didn't put it on the dyno but the pedal response and power increase was outstanding. BUT, it was way too loud , and the drone inside my car was too much for me so I put my Bassani catted X-pipe back on. I highly recomend the Bassani catted X. Great sound with respectable power increase over stock.
  16. RAD New Member

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    Also with offroad mid pipe you will smell unburnt fuel inside the car.
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    Absolutely! I forgot about that. It was bad enough to burn my eyes.
  18. SXYXC New Member

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    Why does it smell???
    and i bought a o/r x-pipe and it hasn't come in yet. if i think its too loud would it work it i brought it somewhere and had them put cats in it?? or would that just F** things up??
  19. Saleen87-65 New Member

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    you can add cats to an offroad pipe if you want to. wont do much more then quiet it down and get rid of most of the fuel smell. I only smell fuel in my car with hte o/r bbk H if I let it idle for a while and then I back up into it...i never just randomly smell it

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