05Stangster said:Got to love your loyalty! Ha ha!
But -- it's a Ford!
HaHaHa
You got me Im a Ford guy!
but Im still just having fun.
BTW I dont hate Chevy's I just wouldn't buy one.LOL
05Stangster said:Got to love your loyalty! Ha ha!
But -- it's a Ford!
HaHaHa
05Stangster said:
Meat, I know you are a Ford guy - and that's cool. I am a Chevy guy (when it comes to trucks). It's nice to find someone on the forum you can joke with and 1) they are not offended, 2) they don't take it personal and 3) they don't launch personal attacks.
Have a great week!
05Stangster said:Black2001GT, I'm glad you've had good luck with your Ford. I had 140,000 on my previous 1989 Chevy truck and had the tranny replaced under warranty, surpentine belt and a couple batteries. I agree, Ford and Chevy have come along way - but the public still portrays their image as way sub-par to imports (and this is still partially true with build quality etc.). It's a sad deal. The imports are killing Ford and Chevy right now. Ford and Chevy dropped approx. 3 - 6% in sales (I don't recall the numbers), Toyota - Nissan etc. are gaining huge numbers like 26 - 30% year over gains. Incredible! Anyhow, God Bless America - and as my 90 year old grandpa says - if you're an American, live in America and earn American dollars - BUY AMERICAN. Thanks for the vent, grandpa's days are numbered and he only buys American, regardless of quality issues.
Klay said:I agree with you on how reliable american cars are (at least in the recent years)
The most reliable car my family owned is a geo metro believe it or not and the worst has been my current car, a vw gti
So far I have only owned imports (until i can get the new mustang gt) and have had problems with all of them
Before I came to this site, i felt like a lot of other people
American cars suck, they hold no value blah blah without even doing any research on the matter
its mostly ignorance I think
Of course, ford and gm have thier share of bad cars but no one ever talks about the bad ones honda and toyota have
and whats funny is you always see mustangs and camaros reliability compared to like a honda civic or toyota corolla, never an acura nsx (although much more expensive then either) or toyota supra
anyways, sorry for my little rant
Klay said:I agree with you on how reliable american cars are (at least in the recent years) The most reliable car my family owned is a geo metro believe it or not
Meat496 said:Its kinda like the crash tests were they mislead you to beilieve your better off in a honda civic than an F150 during an accident(just an example).
I agree with you when driving into an immoveable concrete baracade (thats the crash test) the civic would be better, My point was vehicle VS. vehicle Ill take the F150.jfischer said:For the 1997-2003 F-150, you would be better off in the Civic. The 97-2003 F-150 is one of the least crashworthy vehicles on the road.
THE BOMB said:I agree that foreign sales are rising, but think about it, the # of people immigrating to this country is rising, these people appear to be very loyal to their roots. I don't mean to sound racist, but how many people of Asian desent do you see driving domestic vehicles? I think this is where you're seeing the majority of the sales market #'s coming from. And as far as trucks, Ford vs Chevy, I was a Chevy man for years....3 trucks in a row. When I needed a truck for heavy towing, Chevy dealerships wouldn't deal, "we only get 3 of these a month". So, Ford Super Duty, great deals, just bought my second one, F350, 6.0 diesel, Crew Cab, Lariat with EVERY option; dual alternators, power moonroof/sliding rear window, adjustable pedals, built-in tow command module, upfitter switches, tow boss-highest payload/towing capacity of ANY 1 ton p/u, dually, leather, power seats, heated seats.....blah, blah, blah, all for $41,800 OTD. Power...forget it, unbelievable, I raced a lighter hoped up Duramax and he couldn't lose me. Of course he had about $2K of aftermarket performance. My only loyalty lies with me, and Ford gives me the most bang for my buck. Now in my sandrail...small block Chevy, old school with EFI....can't beat the value there! I'll be ordering my new GT very soon
THE BOMB
05Stangster said:In comparing Chevy / Ford vs. Imports reliability / build quality and how the American cars always get the bad rap in the news - it's nice to see our competition (good old dependable, SAFE, run for ever Toyota) has a few MAJOR PROBLEMS to deal with as well
"March 18, 2006 - TOYOTA, Japan (Reuters) -- Toyota Motor Corp. has said it will recall about 880,000 sport utility vehicles (SUVs) and pickups worldwide, mostly in the United States, to fix a defect in the front suspension that could hamper steering."
Hope nobody has gotten hurt, though.
MyBlueOval said:If GM's idea of "creativity" is slapping a big block V-8 into a Grand Am look alike and calling it a GTO well, lets just say I've seen that much creativity in a kindergarten class room.
300bhp/ton said:Try doin some research...................................................
GM/Pomtiac didn't slap anything into anyhthing.
The GTO is a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia (and also available in the UK as a Vauxhall Monaro).
So in financial terms it cost GM nothing to develop a new model. As for the name GTO? Well it must be an American thing, as if you say to someone anywhere else in the that you drive a GTO they will think one of these:
And as for the looks of the Monaro, well if you really think it looks bad then maybe an eye test is in order . It certainly is not a Stunner or a beuty but it does have an agressive understated big coupe feel. If you think its ugly then the XR8 Ford Falcon (its direct competition in Aus) must also be ugly, as it too doesn't look like the classic Falcons from the 70's (remeber Mad Max!!!!).
No. The Monaro may not be the best car out there, but don't dis it just because you have some dilusional and unfounded bias against GM.
Both Ford and GM have built great cars, but they both build some dredful ones too.
You do have a point there, and I beleive (but please correct if not) that this is due to Pontiac. The Monaro to me always looked the sleeker car, either as a Vauxhall or a Holden. But do to it popularity in the US as the GTO (the biggest market for the coupe now. That the Aus and UK variants are based on the GTO. The GTO has a pitifully small boot due to a relocation of the fuel tank, pre 04 Monaro's didn't and where the much better for it.Svtpilot said:What I don't like is that in my opnion the relationship between the quarter windows and the rear quarter panel and wheel opening seems all akward, it doesn't flow. Like they are going off in different directions.That's my 2 cents
sorry, no such word as interllect300bhp/ton said:is it me or does pony-inspired appear to have the interllect of a boiled potato?