"But the part of them equaling of beating an LS1 is sort of false. Unless the new GT can run high 12's with the best driver, and consistent low 13's with 106-109 mph trap speeds, it is not as fast in the 1/4"
I said within 2/10ths or just as fast. I'll wait untill Muscle Mustang and Fast Ford gets ahold of a 5-speed manual before I make my conclusion on their real power, however it should be extremely close.
"The Mach does not equal an LS1. It will take an LS1 out of the whole, but responds to mods worse and does not trap as high as one and has much less top end"
Mach 1 consistantly run the same times as LS1's, it's a driver race until ~105mph. From a 100mph roll, a LS1 will win, but most people don't buy their cars for high speed racing. Last I checked a 13.1@105 and a 13.1@108 are the same times.
"But you still have to see my point. The mustang is supposed to be a muscle car from what I though (unless we are going back to mustang II, which I hope we haven't), they are supposed to be good in the 1/4. I expect my LS1 (a 98) to be faster than the seven year old 91 5.0. So I sort of expect my seven year old LS1 to perform less than 05 tecnology. It still bugs me that the trap speed though, my LT1 trapped about the same "
Mustangs are muscle cars, there's a wide variety in order to appeal to the masses. You're telling me a GT isn't a muscle car because F-Bodies are faster? That's idiotic. It's like saying your camaro wasn't a real muscle car because a '03 cobra is faster.
You have a point about the trap speed, and I like I said above, we need to wait until there's more track tests on the 5-speed manuals. Although what's the point of trapping 110 if you run 14's?
Point is, Ford has beat it, and will continue to. On all models? No.
..And wait to drive a 05 before you judge it