cuz then id hafta worry about an exhaust shop cutting out my flows and fitting a pipe in there and welding some tips to it. I'd rather just throw a axleback on there n be done with it.... Sorry, id LOVE to have the magnapacks but if i were to get them id rather just have the whole catback, just cant afford it right now. I guess since the loudmouths would sound like ass ima lean towards either the violators or boomtubes.... im ready to order now....come on guys help ease my decision