Laying Rubber

[SRMobile]

I know how to do it, heel-toe...

However, I'm only leaving one tread mark behind(passenger side) so to people on my left I must look real smart.

My question is why is this ? All these Mustang vids circulating around here show all the Stangs leaving two tire tracks. In another thread someone said I had an open diff. Does this mean that in all the vids people are upgrading there rear ends ?

What do I need to do in order to get both spinning ? How much would it cost ? And I guess I should go for 4.10's while the work is being done ?

 

[chevylover]

As far as I know I've got a stock rear and I can lay a nice pair.
I'm not to familiar with the Mustangs and their options but a locking diff. could have been an option.
I know it was on my Avalanche.

 

[SRMobile]

What year is your car ? I'm a 2003..

Could it be I'm being a dumb arse??

 

[DarkFireGT]

I've got an '03. Stock 'cept for filter...

Something definitely sounds wrong there. My tracks are always very even. Stupid question, are you turning off your traction control? Otherwise, there's gotta be something wrong there.

 

[SRMobile]

Yep yep, Turning off the track control..

Car runs great, its just that the few times that Ive burntout Ive only got 1 tire mark left beghind.

I know the Service Manager @ my dealer and asked him if both tires are supposed to spin, he told me that up to a certain point, then the power gets transfered to the right wheel...

So I dont know what to think, anyone else have any ideas?

I guess Ill have to try again to be sure, but its obvious the few times that ive lit them up and have had smoke come in the car... Ya look back and one tire mark.

HELP!

 

[DarkFireGT]

I have no idea then... this is what mine look like

 

[Ruckus46Gt]

i always thought that mustangs lay 2 wheels and they do if they are a 5 speed. I had some dumb guy in front of me in a auto gt with flows powerbrake it in front of me and he had the 1 wheel problem.....so i think autos lay 1

 

[-281 2V-]

Maybe your rear's clutch packs are worn. Does it tend to kick to one side when you lose traction?

 

[smokin'Red35th]

you need a rear differential rebuild. usually they can do that at the same time that you put gears in. but sounds like you have a problem with your clutches or the teeth inside your differential.

 

[2k2fourpointsix]

Bring that car in for service, you traction lock is not working. Be creative on how you tell them you konw its not working, they probably won't like it if you say when laying strips they rear wont lock up. But you want to get that fixed now while its under warranty.

 

[GTn00b]

I've got an auto and it burns em both, but when it goes to 2nd the rear end kicks out is that normal, or do I need a rear end rebuild kit?

 

[twogts4us]

I know how to do it, heel-toe...

Heel-toe? To 'lay rubber'? Just rev it and dump the clutch!
Do you know what heel-toe really is?
It's a method of using your right foot to brake AND blip the throttle while downshifting to try to match the engine speed to the transmission speed and therby minimizing rear to front weight transfer and drivetrain strain while maintaining good rear wheel grip.
Although it's called heel-toe, it's really more about using the ball of your foot for the brake and the right edge of your foot for the gas.

 

[streetstang03]

I've got an auto and it burns em both, but when it goes to 2nd the rear end kicks out is that normal, or do I need a rear end rebuild kit?

mine is the exact same way

 

[smokin'Red35th]

Heel-toe? To 'lay rubber'? Just rev it and dump the clutch!
Do you know what heel-toe really is?
It's a method of using your right foot to brake AND blip the throttle while downshifting to try to match the engine speed to the transmission speed and therby minimizing rear to front weight transfer and drivetrain strain while maintaining good rear wheel grip.
Although it's called heel-toe, it's really more about using the ball of your foot for the brake and the right edge of your foot for the gas.

WHAT??????????

 

[FriscoGT]

The rear-end does not "lock" each side together. Power is transferred from the right to the left by a fluid/clutch, similar in principle to a torque converter. Thus, if the right breaks free and starts to spin too fast the left side may not "catch up" and also break free, leaving only one rubber strip. Only when the left side gets a good transfer of power will it spin.

On my 00 auto GT, about 80% of the time both will spin, and obviously the other 20% I only get the right. If you can never get both sides spinning you very well might have a problem.

 

[02GTBlack]

Whoa there is no "Fluid coupling" in the Traction lock rear end. It has a clutch pack and they can go bad or get used up. There are other things that can go wrong also. You need to get your car serviced. All GTs come with a traction lock rear end as far as I know. But there maybe an option to not have one. Better find out right away.

 

[S.D.-Stangman]

I know the Service Manager @ my dealer and asked him if both tires are supposed to spin, he told me that up to a certain point, then the power gets transfered to the right wheel...

So I dont know what to think, anyone else have any ideas?

Sounds to me like your service manager is an idiot. If you are doing a good clutch dump/brake stand to get em moving, they should both keep spinning till you let up.

 

[trinity_gt]

I know how to do it, heel-toe...

However, I'm only leaving one tread mark behind(passenger side) so to people on my left I must look real smart.

If you're in the process of going around a corner and get into it hard, you might break one tire loose. I can in my 02 GT and it's a pain in the arse.

However, if you're sitting stopped and burn out in a straight line and are leaving one tire mark then it's likely that the LSD (limited slip) or "Traction Lok" in the diff is smoked and is essentially operating as an open differential. I guess it's possible you might also have a dragging brake on the non-spinning wheel that's overcoming the torque bias in the diff but I suspect you'd notice that by sluggish driving and/or smoke emanating from the rear brake.

What do I need to do in order to get both spinning ? How much would it cost ? And I guess I should go for 4.10's while the work is being done ?

You need a functioning LSD. 4.10s would be a good thing... If you've got some extra funds, you might consider upgrading from the marginal factory Traction Lok to an Eaton, Auburn or Torsen diff carrier.

 

[SRMobile]

Okay I seriously hope that something ising screwed up in there THE CAR IS BRAND NEW!! 5000km's on it!!

I do rev it up, dump the clutch and get on the gas and brake at the same time..

Could it be I was too hard on the brakes while I was doing it ?

Im going to try again tonight and let you guys know..

 

[twogts4us]

WHAT??????????

What part don't you understand? Do you really think heel-toe is a techinque to lay rubber? If you don't believe my explaination, go talk to someone who actually races cars - or, hell, just go look for it on the internet. You obviously need to be educated on what heel-toe is and apparently don't believe the info I've provided is true. My guess is you are of the younger generation, right? No offense intended.