SadbutTrue
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SadbutTrue said:because its woefully unnecessary and i'm extremely happy with the car I'm getting...
Well it's one thing not to want the IRS standard on the base level V8 model i.e. the GT and to not want it on an entirely different beast who's heritage is a superbly handling road car.SadbutTrue said:because its woefully unnecessary and i'm extremely happy with the car I'm getting...
98GTfromGA said:I think a 5.0L version of the 3v motor shouldn't cost that much to produce.
The 3v is using the aluminum block so all they would have to do is put bigger
3.70" sleeves in there like all these aftermarket shops are doing. They could
even use the 5.0 blocks from FRPP and just put stock 3v heads and intake on
it.
(&) said:It's necessary if you want the car to handle! "Good enough" just isn't enough for me. If Ford had deemed decent handling to be "good enough" in 69-70, we wouldn't be having a conversation about the Boss 302 today.
BSRacing said:That's not entirely true!
You do not need an IRS to make a car handle good, specially a Mustang. Here is evidence #1: Maximum Motorsports
rhumbline said:My guess/hope would be a Boss 281/460/4.6/whatever they want to call it with:
4V VVT 4.6 with 350+hp (5.0 would be interesting, but not being a production motor, more expensive and thus, unlikely)
6 spd, close ratio MTX
performance suspension upgrade, including IRS, like that even needs to be said
Tire/Wheel upgrade
Brake upgrade
Sport seats
Unique though subdued trim enhancements -- make this a serious performance piece, not the circus come to town for the visual braggards.
Price: ~$28-32K
You really go flying off the road when you hit a bump? Either you are driving way too fast on city streets. Or you and others are exagerating enough to lower credibilty. I realize people have a hang-up with wanting the IRS. And that's fine. I would have liked it as well. But I have not yet personally seen 1 mustang that was going legal speed limits or slightly above (10-15 mph) go off the road when hitting any bumps or potholes (Unless driving in snow which IRS really isn't going to help).(&) said:I did not say that MM was not competitive. MM-equipped cars are awesome on the track, but to get them to IRS-like performance, you lose street manners. My SVO has great handling, but if there's a bump in the corner I'll go flying off the road in a hurry. And even when you go all-out with suspension setup, IRS is better. Why do you think every sports car out there has IRS? Do you think the Ford GT would be better as a solid axle car, but they made it IRS because GT buyers want a cushy ride? I didn't think so.
awalbert88 said:However, on the street, road course, or track, IRS walks all over the live axle.
Ummm how about evolving. No offense but you should really reasses current tech. What did the 351 put down stock? Like 340-350 horses and like 380 lb/ft? That new 351 kicks out 430 horses in the same size displacement with probably a lower compression ratio. I applaud Ford for taking steps forward and trying to figure out more inventive ways of making power that would be plausible in today's market of restrictive emission standards low octane gas.CSI_Stang said:Just becuase it has 302 cubic inches, doesn't mean its got the soul to be called a Boss 302. I might be the only one here that thinks that, but everytime I lift the hood of my push rod 5.0L I am awed by how cool it looks compared to the present 4.6 or 5.4 offerings. I can at least still work on my car in the drive way and I don't need Ford's permission to play with my engine.
I think the new '05 Mustang looks awesome--I've seen it with my own eyes here at the LA Auto show. The Boss photochop looks even better. But even the Boss 351 has a V-10, its cool and all, but still--its not a true 351. Not to bring up the new Hemi, but, how the hell can they call that a Hemi. Where is the car world going?
Just my 0.02.
Casey