302 to 351 swap (302 efi - 351 carb'd or efi?)

[charlesw6954]

i am starting a new and better paying job in february. i have found a 351 windsor motor pretty cheap. its knocking but thats fixable. i would like to just throw on an intake, carb, holley blue fuel pump, and replace what needs fixing. mostly because i just love carb. i know switching my 302 efi to carb would just loose torque. so i just want to get a bigger cubed engine and throw on a carb.

i know i have to replace the oil pan. would i have to replace the motor mounts? anything else that would need replacing? i doubt my aftermarket headers on my 302 would fit on the 351, but owell i got a reason to throw on some l/t's.

im not expecting to get the 351 in the car asap. i just want to have some fun building it up. if i did do it carb'd i would have a holley carb (what cfm?), edelbrock victor jr intake manifold.

the ****ty part about this is the transmission. i blew the stock t-5 and had no money to buy another stock t-5. so i found a 4 cyclinder t-5 that since today shifts so fing nice. i paid only 75 bucks (also had to replace the clutch). so the torque of the 351 would just kill the tranny unless i went really easy.

as of right now i have no aftermarket suspension. the stock suspension has just been too great for me so i have had no desire to go aftermarket.

 

[NKau]

Not to burst your bubble, but unless you really plan on building up the 351 (heads, cam, intake/carb), don't waste your time. The 302 in your car has more potential as it sits than a 351W you pulled out of a '75 country squire wagon. Most 351W engines you find will have ****ty stock heads that are barely adequate on a 302 and have a cam to match.

 

[charlesw6954]

then ill just build the engine up heads/cam/intake. ill just take the time

 

[NKau]

That's all fine and good, but you might want to do a little research on the topic before you run out and buy and begin building a motor. What do you plan to run for a tranny? You may be happy with your current suspension as it sits, but you probably won't be when you drop a heaver engine into the car.
Unless you are leaning towards an all out drag application, you might want to rethink what you're doing. There's a good reason that 95% of the people on this forum or better have stuck with the 5.0L engine.

 

[D347643]

hey now, 351w have tons of potental and the dont weigh "that" much more. Plus talk about torque, try stroking a 5.8 to over 400 cubes. nothing like a 6.5 liter engine under your hood. Plus if it was carburated, shiiiiiiit watch out.

Drew

 

[Chaser]

Not to burst your bubble, but unless you really plan on building up the 351 (heads, cam, intake/carb), don't waste your time. The 302 in your car has more potential as it sits than a 351W you pulled out of a '75 country squire wagon. Most 351W engines you find will have ****ty stock heads that are barely adequate on a 302 and have a cam to match.

The 351W has MUCH more potential than a 302. Don't worry about your suspension, replace it down the road as it wears out. Yes you will need good heads to make good power but thats true for any motor. A t5 will work if you baby it but before you put that motor in you may want to start pricing some tremec's. Your 302 headers will not work.

Heres a link that should help with what you will need for the swap.


http://home.globalcrossing.net/~lsh/351swap/351parts.htm

 

[charlesw6954]

i have researched getting a 351 in my old 84 mustang, but with my 89 its different because its efi. yea i dont really see how a 351 could be that much heavier but it is. i plan on wanting to get a very tough tko.

before i get the 351 up and running i will start to add aftermarket suspension

 

[Chaser]

It is not that difficult to go from an efi setup to a carb setup, also long as your suspension is not worn out from high mileage I wouldnt worry about it too much unless its just something that you want to do. And I do not remember exactly how much heavier a 351 is but it is not that much more than a 302. Maybe 100-200 pound difference.

 

[D347643]

noo way a 351 weighs 200 pounds more, not even 150 pounds more. My dad and i picked it up and walked it to the backyard and into the shed pretty easily. I seriously would guess MAXIMUM 100 pounds more than a 302, i had a 94 roller block 5.8. If it was 150 pounds more then i dont think we would have been able to carry it, no way.

thanks,

Drew