The Verdict... So I went and got my car yesterday. They still had it on the lift so I could see, which was what I asked. I looked, I noticed where the custom-fabbed H-pipe had been cut out and capped and welded - is that acceptable? I've asked two other people and they seem to think this is all right. The conversation after was fairly unpleasant. The service writer basically kept making excuses for the fact that he never left specific instructions to the mechanic not to start the job, so really, none of this was my friend's fault - he just got caught in the middle of it. And they insist he spent "nearly 6 hours" working on my car. Looking at the job that was done, and how the exhaust is not set up, I still can't see it, unless that 6 hours included a coffee break every hour, lunch, snacks, time to change the radio station a few times and the typical bull****ting that can go on in a shop. Insane. In the end, (hah, and after him asking me "Are you calling me a liar?" and me replying "Yes, I am!"), the price he offered me was three hours labor, plus $125 to put the Flowmasters on when I brought it back, and I said no, that I wanted to pay three hours labor, PERIOD, and I think just to get me out of his shop he accepted, and gave me a voucher to have the Flows put on free of charge. But I have to go back again this weekend >_< They got a welding ash on my passenger seat, and my seats are tan cloth. When it rains, it pours. So they're going to clean that Saturday. All bull**** aside, I have to say that the work that was done is immaculate, which is why I wanted this particular guy to do it in the first place. And he shimmed my tailpipes perfectly, in spite of looking at me like I was from mars when I told him to please do that, as I was not planning on cutting the bumper. In spite of everything, I'm very happy with the job that was done. All said and done, it's louder than I expected for a stock GT exhaust, so at this moment in time I am considering forgoing the Flows and just returning them. There is hardly a difference in sound when the car is idling and driving at certain speeds, but turning the engine over and revving it's plenty noticable, and there is a more noticeable rumble between 2k-2500 rpm (I forget exactly where atm); I was hoping for just a little bit more, but I'm thinking at this point that adding the Flows will be too much, unless I go to something smaller like a 50 series, so I think I'll just wait for now. Oh, and I can feel a difference in the car as well. It's slightly punchier in 2nd and 3rd, and thankfully I did not seem to lose any low-end torque with this, which was a concern of mine, as my car is a bit sluggish off the line in certain conditions as it is. Anyway, to all of you who gave me advice on what to do with my little machine, thanks for the help, it's been much appreciated. On to the next project, lol. -Lynn.