Mean03V6 said:
Exactly WTF is your problem man? Every time I post on this site, you come along and try to flame me. What's the deal?
It's nothing personal if thats what you are getting at, but you complain about ricers all the time but you do the same thing they do... make statements about cars you can beat w/o even knowing that the very one's you make fun of could hang w/ or beat you. So, nothing against you, just the ignorant/ricer mentality in general.
Mean03V6 said:
GTS Celica running stock wouldn't see 14's downhill with a good tail wind. FACT. Maybe YOU should get that straight.
Maybe an older one, but since you are talking about new car pricing, I assume you mean new. Why don't you stroll on over to newcelica.org and tell all those guys that they can't break 14's STOCK. They'll laugh in your face because they do it all the time. Check the timeslips page. Not many stock ones listed but there are several in the 14.5-14.6 area w/ only intake, some in the same range with back seat removed, one that ran 14.99 stock and now 14.5 with DR's (he is listed under the 14.5 but also tells his stock run.), and many more like them, which would show that they could easily run 14's STOCK, unless you think CAI shaves .5 seconds. Many of these also have timeslips and some videos for proof.
Disclaimer: Auto GT-S's run high 16's- low 17's because they can't land in the powerband with only 4 gears instead of the 6 gears of the manual.
Mean03V6 said:
$22k start price? Don't know what world you're living on, but around here, it's $26,578.35 to the cent, and that's the factory list price on a GT, not a GTS. The Toyota dealer 15 minutes from my house has a Black 2003 GTS for $43,320.78 because they tinted the windows, dropped it and slapped rims on it.
What's that in, YEN??? Toyota.com says the base price for a GT-S is $22,570
http://www.toyota.com/celica/
Mean03V6 said:
As for getting stomped by a Cavalier, I've dropped brand new Civic Si's in my Stang, and we all know that the Si is a much much quicker car than a Cavi, be it Z24 or whatever.
Well, you knew wrong. Check out this link. Several of them have run mid-15's stock with Z24's AND Ecotec 2.2's.
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=48&i=358&t=319#358
Mean03V6 said:
I don't know where you're getting your facts from, but you are kidding yourself if you think that a Cavalier is going to beat a Mustang straight up..
Manual vs. Manual, the Mustang SHOULD beat them, but Auto V6 vs. Manual Z24, the Cavi could definately win.
Mean03V6 said:
"GTS-Celi"? Are you a closet rice boy?
Ricer= "Person who does tacky, non-performance mods to their car and/or pretends like his car is faster than it really is." (BYW, it isn't "Every car that you don't like")
By that definition, which is the commonly held definition, I'm not a ricer. Just because I abbreviate "Celica," doesn't make me a ricer. I just wanted to save time and now I'm a ricer because of it?
Mean03V6 said:
I'm not bashing other cars, I'm telling you from experience what I know. And I know that if you think a Cavalier is going to beat a Mustang straight up, then you're a fool.
Well, I know that if you think any STOCK V6 other than a Manual 99+ is going to beat a mid-15 second STOCK Cavileer, then... yeah, you get the point.