The direct competition to the long-runner Performer intake (idle-5500rpm) are the GT40, TFS Street Burner, and the BBK SSI. None of them beats the Performer. A GT40 that's been ported by Tmoss would be comparable but then it would also cost just as much. You'd have to step up to shorter-runner, higher-flowing intakes like the TFS Track Heat, Performer RPM II, and Holley Systemax II to gain more HP but that'll come at the cost of losing some low rev torque.
Here is the deal with trying to help peeps who have little or no experience when it comes to extracting more power from their Stang They have nothing to reference to or You could say ... Their basic questions all boil down to ....... Whats it gonna be like when I bolt on all those hot rod parts Me and wifee took trip and my little GT pulled 19mpg at a cruise of 80mph and that even included me showing a punk kid in a Camero my horizontal t-lites who kept pestering us. I let off just past the century mark so you know that had to suck a good bit of 93 Grade I have no doubt at slower speeds it would get over 20mpg So you see ... Good mileage with all that stuff I did Now ... here is the rest of the story Around town ... it really does suck down the fuel but I really don't care as I built it for a weekend toy only Said all that to show .......... If you can think long term and share that with everybody They will give different advice based upon what you ask Just as there was more to the fact ... I can pull 20mpg + I'm gonna try and tell you ............. There is more ... WAY MORE to ........ just a bit more power :Word: I think you are wise to see the significance of you got the confines of dealing with a daily driver btw ... h/c/i means heads cam intake manifold With a daily driver and staying NA and a stick trans I'd go along these lines ......... First mod would be 373's Second mod would be an intake with the longest runner uppers such as OEM Cobra, TFS Street Heat, Edel Performer Third mod would be LT's and doing away with the restrictive OEM 4 cat mid pipe To do all the above you DO NOT need a throttle body, or meter or inj's A set of pulleys would boost up your torque all the way across the power band An ignition will do nothing for you Roller rockers ... even an increased ratio of like 1.7 ......... dont expect but about 5 rwhp so the gain to buck spent is not too good I just don't see a chip doing much for you in power or gas savings You could swap mod 2 and 3 with no probs I would go LT's over shortys because ....... Contrary to popular beliefe ... They hang no lower than shortys They'll give you more low end and mid range torque than shortys Go back to that chart and look at all those peeps with OEM heads and cam to get an idea of what can be done anywho .......... With this method you won't need to tune the pcm and You can still use the OEM tb, meter, and inj's but You should upgrade the intank fuel pump cause the OEM pump is tiny Here is a little example of what you would have with such a combo Think of passing water down a 75 foot section of hose You can pass more with 3/4 as opposed to 1/2 inch With the above combo your intake and exhaust would be 3/4 inch but With the OEM heads and cam ... Well ... they be only 1/2 inch but If you find yourself wanting more You can always take out the smaller section of 1/2 inch hose in the middle by upgrading heads and cam thus making the entire combo 3/4 inch all the way which would mean more power See ... All you gotta do is just .......... hose around ... with stuff to start making more power Grady
THANKS THATS ALOT OF HELP ! whats the skinny on super chargers? do they replace intakes? how do you know the right one for your car? CAn i ripe one off a boneiville some old lady's selling. what about the Eaton M90 Supercharger? and how much hp gain?
Glad something said here makes some kinda sense The deal with blowers is they make a bunch of power but Just like makin a bunch of power NA It is so very important to have an idea about what will happen if you go for the big power :Word: If you only got one car to play with (daily driver) ....... I'd tell you to do your research well I'd love to get all involved with talkin blowers and it would be great if those who have done em would offer input al well Lemme know if ya'll wanna go there Grady
Well ... Ya just gotta know it by now I started this dad gum thread for the NOOBS or Folk not very far along in this hobby we all love I really thought they would jump all over it and We would have experienced folk contribute their findings But ... I guess a lot of em are a bit skeered to speak up and I can understand why but Us old timer members know that All that childish flamin & other juvinille behavior just don't happen here :Word: Besides ... You can offer plenty of good stuff but They gotta ask first opcorn: How's that? ... Mo Betta Grady
Maybe folks just don't have the $$$$ for their projects, or like me aren't ready to add more power to their Stang yet. From my POV, your insights and knowledge are really appreciated (along with everyone else's input), but learning before I'm ready to use the knowledge means it won't stick and I'll have to learn again.
Couple of questions from somebody that just discovered this thread. I'm building up a 302 for a Miata. I have Ford X306 aluminum heads and the Ford E303 cam. I also have Cobra 1.7 roller rockers. Is this a commonly done combination and will be ok, or will I see a short life of the valve train components? Has anybody run one of the Comp Polymer box intakes? I'm interested due to weight savings. I know they hurt the bottom end, but I've never seen numbers. I'd like to know how bad are they.
