RealQuick said:From what I have seen, the mach1 and 01 cobra have similar powerbands, but the mach just makes more rwhp/rwtq stock.
STUD said:Angus, regarding the HP difference at 5k rpm-6500 rpm. I was referring to my bolt-on modded cobra. My dyno sheet shows 25 more hp between 5000 rpm and 6500 rpm than a stock mach 1. Also, I know someone with a mach1 and all the bolt-ons, he maxed at 295rwhp with the same mods that I recorded 311rwhp. Same dyno.
STUD said:I don't know, maybe the 99-01 cobra's have more potential with mods than the mach's do.
Nazman said:01 Cobra vs. 0X Mach 1 vs. 99 Cobra:
Mach vs. 01 Cobra
99 Cobra
According to the dyno the Mach is making about 215RWHP @ 7000RPMs and according to my AFTER FIX sheet the 99 Cobra is making about 250RWHP @ 7000RPMs.....the Mach makes peak HP o/a 5000RPMs and the 99 Cobra makes peak o/a 6200RPMs....the Mach is making o/a 250RWHP from 4300+RPMs to 6500RPMs and the 99 Cobra is making 250RWHP from o/a 4300+RPMs to 7000RPMs....the Mach is making o/a 275RWTQ from 3300+RPMs to o/a 5300RPMs and the 99 Cobra is making 275RWTQ from o/a 3600RPMs to 5400RPMs.....so on my book...with equal gears....lets say Mach type 3.55 and equal axles let's say Mach solid...IMHO the 99 Cobra (for example) will kill the Mach....
Just my .02
Naz
WE'RE glad you're done, and don't come back. Guys like you give all mustang owners a bad name. Your posts are nothing short of rediculous.SVOKING said:Ok, Guys.....
I'm done. Cya later
Angus, you should of kept the cobra. I don't have all the bolt-ons(no porting,no headers,no inner fender cai) 311rwhp, 305rwt. I doubt you'll come anywhere close to 325rwhp with those bolt-ons, maybe 300rwhp. You should of bought a 03 cobra monster, why settle for a mach 1. Mach 1's are great performance automobiles, but the 03 cobra with mod's crushes it.Angus said:Well, if you're going to compare a modded '01 engine to a stock '03 4V I wouldn't exactly call that "Apples-to-Apples".
As far as the Mach 1 you mention with "All the bolt-ons" hitting only 295 rwhp, I'd like to see that since my car made only ~ 8 rwhp less with only a drop-in K&N filter in the stock box.
With just the K&N, my Mach also made an additional 8 lb ft of rwtq (312 rwtq vs 304 rwtq) more than my full bolt-on (JBA 1 5/8" headers/Magnaflow X-pipe/Magnaflow Cat-back/C&L MAF/K&N Big filter/Steeda u/d pullies/Custom tuned-ECU/etc...) '01 4V did.
My '01 had 318 rwhp/304 rwtq when I had it custom tuned, and that was all that I could squeeze out of it with all the bolt-ons available.
Since my last dyno, I've added:
Bassani '03 Cobra catted X-pipe
Magnaflow Catback
K&N Aircharger intake kit
I'm going to dyno again in a week or so & I'll post how the modded Mach 4V compares to the modded '01 4V.
I'll overlay the graphs like I did in the previous post so we can all see how they truly compare.
If I was a betting man, I'd wager that my Mach will make ~ 325 rwhp & ~ 340 rwtq after receiving a dyno tune like my '01...
I'LL GIVE YOU MY 99 cobra numbers. This car has bolt-ons, and no headers, no porting, no inner fender cai. 311RWHP, 305RWT. Here is my car compared to Mach1. Mach@ 4000rpm is 225rwhp, cobra is 225rwhp; mach@4500rpm is 260rwhp, cobra is 260rwhp; mach@5000rpm is 280rwhp, cobra is 297rwhp;mach@5500rpm is 275rwhp, cobra is 301rwhp; mach@6000rpm is 275rwhp, cobra is 311@ 6200rpm; mach is 250rwhp@ 6500rpm, cobra is 300; mach is 200rwhp@ 7000rpm, cobra is 275. I've gotcha by 17rwhp@5000rpm, 26rwhp@5500rpm, 36rwhp@6000rpm, 50rwhp@6500rpm,75rwhp@7000rpm. With porting, headers, and WMS cai I'd probably peek @ 325rwhp. But my numbers would go up throughout the powerband. Cobra's really wake up with mod's, especially in the upper rpm's. I have yet to see a modded mach 1 make 300rwhp.RealQuick said:Before 6800rpm the Mach1 makes more power/torque the whole way! The blue curve is higher than the red curve!!!!!!! Your looking at a little spike at the end. Area under the curve is the most important. Mach1 wins flatout.
STUD said:I have yet to see a modded mach 1 make 300rwhp.
STUD said:With my 4:10 gears and good tires, I think I'd smoke ya even with the IRS.
STUD said:I'm working at getting the dyno sheet posted, so you can see for yourselves.