said might in the first place because i own both... my stang isnt near 400hp but my ls1 99z28 with stock ls6 heads/intake/tb and street
suspension/tires eats up 400hp STREET stangs all day... now if you put track slicks/weight reduction on that same 400hp stang of course youll beat a stock ls1/2...
Well, why didn't you say so?
Make up your mind...are we comparing a stock LS1, or one that had to change its entire top end? Having to add the LS6 top end to the engine kind of kills your "stock" argument, don't you think? Running "stock" GM parts, doesn't qalify it as a "stock" engine. I mean...I could put a "stock" 5.0 TiVCT engine in my Coupe and run 11's all day long....but that doesn't exactly make it a stock era Mustang, now does it?
i know i sound like kind of a biased but the proof is in the pudding and number charts.... 400 hp stangs are great but thats not even 100 more hp than a stock f body ls1...
Errrrrr....yeah, but it's still......100 more horsepower!?! And in a car that weighs 200-300lbs less to boot. I'm not sure what pudding you're eating, but in the real world, the odds don't look good for the F-Body.
im just saying, my friends 93 cobra w a v2 blower and bolt ons makes almost 410hp to the ground and when my 99z28 was stock id still have him by half a car length. And with nitto nt050r tires hed have me out of the hole till i hit second then still my stock Z would catch him around 60mph.... now i have almost 500 FWHP (stock tune zo6 maf) in the Z and and full BMR
suspension w/ vett rims and i have passed up every 03-04 cobra i see on highway 101... and only one shelby gt500.. (i dont think he knew what he was doin though) still for under 10k total in my Z including the price of the car... im smoking cars double and even triple my price tag..... the only stang i have been smoked by is a 90fox w/ a 347 stroker w/ v2 blower and lots of other chassis mods, build AOD, far far from stock.....
Wait...so because you beat your buddies '93 Cobra, that makes all 400hp Mustangs slow? There are several dozen members in this particular forum that would love to be your Huckleberry on that one.
very true... but if youd put hoosier 8inch slicks on a stock f body 98-02, it will run deep 11's....
....sure it will. You do know what the word "stock" means, right?
btw the ls1 is a motor produced since like 1997... the new 5.0 w/412hp is a brand new engine.... and just to upgrade to the boss 302 package costs more than what i bought my camaro for.. lol
So what's your point? The 5.0L OHV you're comparing the LSX engine to was produced back in 1968. What does it matter how old the engine is?
Look...the LSX wasn't a mechanical marvel. GM made large cube engines, with a high flow H/C/I package and made power. That's not exactly what I would call impressive. Guys have been adding big H/C/I packages to large displacement strokers for over a decade and making as good, or better power than that.
GM would have impressed me if they pulled those kinds of power numbers of a small displacement engine like Ford has....but they couldn't. They always went with the "bigger = better" formula. In some ways it worked (it appeased the horsepower junkies), but in the end couldn’t save the car and the 4th Gen FBody crashed and burned. When all is said and done though, they're still just the big bully picking on the underdog. Nothing special there?
The fact that the new 5.0L TiVCT nearly matches the horsepower and torque figures of the much larger 6.2L LS3 V8 while pulling cleaner emissions and knocking out 30mpg is frigging astounding. And running 11's off the show room floor in a full weight car, with nothing more than tires, 10’s with tires and basic
suspension and bolt ons and deep-10’s with a small shot of giggle gas on top of it all is frigging incredible!!! And that’s all without even removing a valve cover….now that it something to be impressed by!!!