My buddy has a 68 coupe with a numbers matching 6 cylinder and he thinks the value will increase? I'm trying to convince him that he needs to upgrade to a crate motor and upgrade the tranny, rearend and brakes to match. Is there any value in a 68 coupe with a 6 cylinder or do I continue my pursuit to make this a nice "G" machine? Thanks, Rod
68 Coupe with a 6 cylinder?
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6Stang7
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the value will increase, but not like a V8 car would. as far as swaping to a V8, yes you could do that, but why? a well built 300 from a truck in the 68 with an AOD and say 3.73 gears will spank many modified V8's, including some of the vaunted crate motors.
65fastback2+2
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Red73 said:Thanks, I didn't realize that the "matching numbers" thing was not a ford thingsorry. I'm looking to get my hands dirty, spend my buddies money and help him build a nice car. Looks like I need to do a little more research on what's out there for his car. Thanks for the feedback. Rod
Ya, numbers matching was something GM did with the corvette. They stamped most parts with the vin of the car. Ford didnt do this, some parts on Fords are date coded, but thats it, no vin.
It's only a 6 cylinder. bust out the cutting torch.
j/k. it will appreciate in value if it's upkept, just nowhere near what a V8 will, and obviously not what a special edition car will. IMO it also won't appreciate enough to make it worth depriving yourself of the satisfaction of building a real kick-@ss modified car out of it.
j/k. it will appreciate in value if it's upkept, just nowhere near what a V8 will, and obviously not what a special edition car will. IMO it also won't appreciate enough to make it worth depriving yourself of the satisfaction of building a real kick-@ss modified car out of it.
reenmachine
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Agreed. 6-bangers are great cars to modify because they're still relatively cheap. Keep in mind though that swapping in a V8 also means changing your front suspension and the rest of your drivetrain if you want to do it right and be safe.
The closest thing to matching numbers for this car is just making sure that the date codes cast into the engine parts slightly precede the car's build date. It's a big deal for the Cobra Jet/Boss/etc. purists but not for a 6-cyl coupe.
Most of the K-code 289 HiPo cars had the VIN stamped into the block, some didn't. In this case, matching numbers are important (if you care about such things).
The closest thing to matching numbers for this car is just making sure that the date codes cast into the engine parts slightly precede the car's build date. It's a big deal for the Cobra Jet/Boss/etc. purists but not for a 6-cyl coupe.
Most of the K-code 289 HiPo cars had the VIN stamped into the block, some didn't. In this case, matching numbers are important (if you care about such things).
Just to throw another idea at ya. you can fix up the six and get a lot more power out of it. It will certainly be different. A stock 81 truck 300's torque rating was only surpassed by the 400 and larger engines of that year. just a little something to think about.
MustangMatt1966
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MustangMatt1966
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ahhh i c, well anything is possible if you put your mind to it.....how sick would that be to have a built and supercharged 6 cylinder.......
damn, i had no idea the six's were so potent!
can someone please give some numbers on these engines? hp and torque. And some numbers as to what they will take before they lose their bottum end, and or drop the pistons like a wet pair of shorts?
i thnk the prospect of building a super six is intreguing, i'll bet few do it these days with all the 8 muscle around
can someone please give some numbers on these engines? hp and torque. And some numbers as to what they will take before they lose their bottum end, and or drop the pistons like a wet pair of shorts?
i thnk the prospect of building a super six is intreguing, i'll bet few do it these days with all the 8 muscle around
I like the hot I6 thing too. These engines have some real potential. I just saw an article the other day about an Austrailian Ford I6 turbo (this is one of the engines they use in the Falcon) making a reliable 1000 HP! Granted the Ausie was aluminum and had DOHC, but 1000 HP from a I6 with a TQ curve as flat as a table, is just insane.
I just found a link to the article I mentioned above.
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2311/article.html
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2311/article.html
MustangMatt1966
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that is so crazy....those pipes are like moltent hot........place your hand on that sucker and you wont have a hand any longer
So if we drop in a crate motor such as this:
http://www.fordcobraengines.com/302_345hpCarb.htm
which overdrive (5 speed) tranny (stick) would be best with a 3.70 rearend?
also, would it just be a front spring change to handle the addition engine weight or do the steering components also need to be changed?
is there a direct fit aluminum radiator (Griffin, BeCool, etc..) and electric fans (flex-a-lite, etc..) setup that would work?
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http://www.fordcobraengines.com/302_345hpCarb.htm
which overdrive (5 speed) tranny (stick) would be best with a 3.70 rearend?
also, would it just be a front spring change to handle the addition engine weight or do the steering components also need to be changed?
is there a direct fit aluminum radiator (Griffin, BeCool, etc..) and electric fans (flex-a-lite, etc..) setup that would work?
bRed73 said:So if we drop in a crate motor such as this:
http://www.fordcobraengines.com/302_345hpCarb.htm
which overdrive (5 speed) tranny (stick) would be best with a 3.70 rearend?
also, would it just be a front spring change to handle the addition engine weight or do the steering components also need to be changed?
is there a direct fit aluminum radiator (Griffin, BeCool, etc..) and electric fans (flex-a-lite, etc..) setup that would work?
holy crap! for $5,000 i think you can do better! Try this motor on for size
http://www.coasthigh.com/Assemblies/Ford/ford_347.htm?Submit33=347ci
you can get a top of the line long block 347 stroker motor with 400 HP for $1,000 less
as far as the front steering componants, i think they can stay stock. probably will need heavier springs though.
Aluminum radiator with electric fans is a good idea. though waterpunp fans are still ok if you are wanting to stick with a more vintage look.
i have a vintage 69 428CJ radiator cooling my 347 and it cools it plenty, as well as the stock flex fan. i like the vintage look
I doubt the 1000 HP I6 in Austrailia shares anything with any of the American I6 ever prudeced. We can only hope that, some time soon, Ford will bring some of the cool Ausie. stuff here like the 400 HP 5.4L BOSS and the turbo I6. The 500 will get old fast if they don't put some muscle in it soon.
