nmcgrawj said:Im not saying thats asking for too much. I simply said that the professional we all trust says it can be done. So it can. Plain and simple. You want to find out how? Call Ed.
Like i said before...there is a bigger world outside of these forums where power levels are reached that we never hear about. But guess who does? Ed. So if you want to know HOW someone did it...thats one thing. But questioning if it can be done is just annoying. Going on and on and on about "streetable" is annoying. You only set the definition about "Streetable" for yourself, and i think we all know what it is by now. So leave it be.
5spd GT said:So going on and on about it being streetable is annoying...almost as annoying as not seeing any 400rwhp daily driver/street cars. Any accessories at all?
walker95svt said:I do know a guy (not verified, but a reliable, honest guy) who claims his e-cam'd, AFR 185'd 347 makes 374 at the wheels on a dynojet. I don't know. I see a lot of variance in what I'm told. I do know what thing though, THE MAGAZINES ARE FULL OF IT!!!!! My exact combo, a 8.5:1 331 with AFR 185s and similar cam, was claimed by MM&FF to make 331 HP at the flywheel. There's NO WAY IN HELL. If that combo was realistic, then I should be able to make near 700hp on pump gas with boost. I DON"T THINK SO!! I can only wish.
The extremely competent head tuner at dallas mustang told me that most 331/347 combos make between 290-330 at the wheels. You gotta remember it's a mustang dyno though, therefore making what appears to be less power.
I think people are misguided by the magazines about how much power a windsor small block can make.
I agree with those who say 400hp is a result of careful parts selection and is rarer than it may seem.
SWYZ721 said:How come Cheby's 350 cubes can pretty easily reach 400WHP?
nmcgrawj said:Call Ed.
Oh by the way...like i have tried to get across to you. SOME GUYS will have a daily driver with no accessories. If you live in michigan...you dont need a/c and if you are strong enough power steering wont be missed THAT much. Its up to the driver...not you. There is no problem with wanting details, but if you want examples of 400rwhp cars, be quiet and call Ed.
Lyncher said:...the same reason 351s reach 400whp pretty easily...MORE CUBES
5spd GT said:Alls they can do is say "call Ed" If it is so "easy" or common for a daily driven car...the let's see them. Shouldn't be that problem...I even tried doing a search and still no luck. Bummer
nmcgrawj said:Dont take stuff so personal All i was trying to say is that some people have a different opinion of a street driven combo.
So i guess this extends out to Ed C. too right since he didnt post the combo...just that it COULD be done. If Ed C. saying it can be done isnt enough than i dont know what is.
walker95svt said:I do know a guy (not verified, but a reliable, honest guy) who claims his e-cam'd, AFR 185'd 347 makes 374 at the wheels on a dynojet. I don't know. I see a lot of variance in what I'm told. I do know what thing though, THE MAGAZINES ARE FULL OF IT!!!!! My exact combo, a 8.5:1 331 with AFR 185s and similar cam, was claimed by MM&FF to make 331 HP at the flywheel. There's NO WAY IN HELL. If that combo was realistic, then I should be able to make near 700hp on pump gas with boost. I DON"T THINK SO!! I can only wish.
The extremely competent head tuner at dallas mustang told me that most 331/347 combos make between 290-330 at the wheels. You gotta remember it's a mustang dyno though, therefore making what appears to be less power.
I think people are misguided by the magazines about how much power a windsor small block can make.
I agree with those who say 400hp is a result of careful parts selection and is rarer than it may seem.
5spd GT said:What I think what he is trying to get at is that a 347 is only 3cu. inch less than a 350 so why is it "easier" for a 350 to get 400rwhp with a better ratio to get there than a 347. I hope that made sense?
95Vert said:5-spd GT, I know what you mean about 400rwhp 347 stroker are being hard to find and what has to be done to get it there, but I don't doubt it. I really
hope somone would post a combo making that power so we can see if it can be done. I'll be gettin in touch with Ed to see if it can be done, and if it can, I want to know how cause I wouldn't mind a combo like that.
5spd GT said:Me and Nate were reffering to another thread (about 302's and 400rwhp)...I know 347's can do it but again they aren't as common as some on here say to go back to your point but oh yeah they exist
SWYz21 - I doubt 400rwhp is just real common on "350's" and is probably implied like "347's can easily make 400rwhp". Same statements being exagerated. Now the ls1's (346) can hit 400rwhp with a nice cam/heads package fairly easily. So I don't know
Grn92LX said:Nice combination! Thats N-111 hi rev cam is a big cam. Do your brakes work good? Do you mind posting your dyno graph? I'd expect a little more from that combo though. Who ported the heads? This guy is making the same power with a smaller N-91 hi rev cam with a near identicle combo, 347- afm ported TW, ported victor 5.0, N-91, bassani 1 5/8-1 3/4 longtubes.
http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.com/cars/AlongandDpatz.htm
94GTLaserRC said:Hey, Awesome mods...Take everything after my initials (RC), Copy it, and paste it on your sig page...then you will be set... (I made it short so you can keep the "DONT BUY SPEC CLUTCH" along with what I made for you.
RC
SWYZ721 said:sorry, thats what I meant, L-S/T-1s but I should have been more specific, is this due to their intake mani, ie like the new 3V motors, and the fact that the LS1 revs much higher?
It seems chevy was doin something right with their intake manis as now Fords look very similar, however, they STAY pushrod while ford is quad-cammin' now they need to: quad cam, steal Cheby's intake, and up the displacement to 5.4 for a bad as cobra motor, then pour on the boost.
kck6894 said:Yeah the N-111 cam is big and I would like to go bigger and rev the engine a little higher I think. One interesting thing about it though it that AFM says that cam will build power to 6800 RPM and it does exactly that. It works my breaks find now. I actually had to add a vacuum pump when I first put it on cuz my power breaks didn't work, but the other day at the track I melted a hole in one of the lines and by-passed the vacuum pump and they work great now.
I had help from my engine builder with my heads and I think they are definately holding my back. I am interested in doing something different to get a little more power out of them.
I will see if I can get a dyno sheet scanned and uploaded.