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Lawman85 said:Who said that the Charger's competition is the Mustang?????
Dodge is aiming at the sedan market with the Charger, Magnum, and 300C. They are trying to take the customers from the Crown Victoria's, Town Cars, Lincoln LS's, Impalas ... and not to mention the BMW 3 and 5 series. That is their target market, not the pony car market. It is ridiculous to compare a Magnum or Charger to a Mustang.
Next everyone will me crying because the new Pacifica offers a sunroof and DVD player and the 05 Mustang doesn't... Comparing apples to oranges.
calypsocoral302 said:FINALLY!!!!! Someone freakin' GETS IT!!!!!
Thank you, lawman, for bringing sanity back to this thread. And, in case your occupation fits your username, both the Magnum and the Charger are supposed to be available as cop cars by the middle of 2006.
Now, let's watch Ford's Crown Vic suddenly drop in sales when something finally competes with it on the law enforcement fleet level!
Lawman85 said:1. Dependability.... we all know the service records of Dodges. I had to take my 04 Durango back to the dealer 2 months after buying it to have the entire A/C system redone.
Lawman85 said:2. Too much horsepower.... alot of agencies will see 340hp as a HUGE liability and danger to their officers. I know it sounds stupid but we have officers that are overpowered by the Crown vic. Dodge can beat this if they make the AWD standard on police interceptors... if they do that.. then watch out!!!
Lawman85 said:3. Gas mileage... We can barely make a Crown Vic last 8 hours on a tank of gas. We would have to fill the Hemi up at least 2 times and they run on mid grade gas. An agency would spend over twice what it does now in gas.
calypsocoral302 said:Yeah. Owning a '96 Caravan has taught me that much. Had more problems with that thing than the Escort I currently drive... and the Escort is a higher-mileage car!
Wow... I honestly didn't see that one coming... though it is worthy of note that the 3.5L Dodge V6 has almost as much horsepower as the ancient iteration of the 4.6L Ford V8 in the Crown Vic (the version used in the Mustang is multiple times better in almost every concievable way), while being lighter and more efficient.
Okay, let's talk powertrain:
-- Crown Victoria- 239hp @ 4,750 rpm; 287 lb/ft @ 4,100 rpm
EPA Est. MPG: 17/25 city/highway
--Charger V8- 340hp @ 5,000 rpm; 390 lb/ft @ 4,000 rpm
EPA Est. MPG: 17/25 city/highway
The 3.5L V6 delivers 245 hp and lb/ft, at 19/27 city/highway...
It actually looks like the HEMI offers the most bang per drop of regular unleaded... looks like a pretty good option for the highway patrol, anyway...