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93 teal terror said:Still no one has adressed my point....how can you have a computer that goes into failure mode if the torque is changed, when every engine produces slightly different outputs. I doubt that Ford is going to program each computer induvidually for every car.
351CJ said:If something to this effect is implemented, the trip point would be set at some level above the nominal output torque.
Eg. let's assume that the nominal torque output of the 2005 GT is 320 lb. ft. The failure mode would probably set around 340 -350 lb. ft. to accomodate engine to engine variation and sensor tolerance.
Another thing that many of you have to come to grips with is, future Ford engines come from the factory with higher HP, but it will be much harder to get incremental power through home garage bolt ons.
You can't have it both ways. Most of you seem to like the idea that you can bolt an exhaust system on a current GT (mid pipe & cat back) and gain an easy 15 HP. However, most of you seem to have a big problem with the thought that future Mustangs may have OEM exhuast systems that are so much better than the current ones, that no matter what you do to the exhust system you couldn't get more than 5 additional HP out of it (The 350Z syndrome). You can't have it both ways. If the powertrain comes from the factory in a higher state of tune, there is going to be less HP gains to be had afterwards with aftermarket bolt ons.
hamonkeiser said:Heavier weight = less fuel economy. Federal fuel ecomnomy standards are getting stricter so lowering the weight on cars & trucks is a big issue (alot of the body panels on the F-150'2 are Aluminum & composit now).QUOTE]
Yeah, but vehicle weights keep going up, not down. The new F150 is considerably bigger and heavier than the one it replaced.
66Satellite said:Yeah, but vehicle weights keep going up, not down. The new F150 is considerably bigger and heavier than the one it replaced.
hamonkeiser said:Actually, it only looks heavier...If you pull the specs & compare base F-150's, the curb weight of the 2004 F-150 is 80 lbs lighter than the 2003. (2003 Curb weight is 4285 lbs, 2004 is 4205 lbs).
hamonkeiser said:30's for the GT.
hamonkeiser said:Actually, it only looks heavier...If you pull the specs & compare base F-150's, the curb weight of the 2004 F-150 is 80 lbs lighter than the 2003. (2003 Curb weight is 4285 lbs, 2004 is 4205 lbs).