aw man gentleman, and ladys. ive been contemplating something to replace my (crapmasters, dronemasters, flowcraps,etc.) you get the pic. well i was torne from slp lm1s, magna packs, or stingers. well stingers were outta my prce range, magna packs sounded too much like a well truck muffler to me. then there were slp's lm1s. people triedto talk me out of going lm1s and go with lm2s, but theres the "glass pack" thing i dont like. so...i went lm1s and lemme tell ya, its exactly what i wanted. plus i got em for $75 for the pair. they were used with less then 5k miles and look brand new.