NITROUS GUYS come in!!!

[04GTMustang]

Alright guys I have been doing some thinking. I was going to go with a single turbo setup but now im just going to cam my car and then finish the exhaust off with some long tubes and then make a badass nitrous setup. I am looking for high 11s on spray with slicks.

Now i have been looking into progressive controllers for my nitrous. And seeing how these controllers work by cutting down on that instant torque spike i was thinking would this also ease some of the instant blow on the motor. meaning will it help out some with the longevity of the motor running nitrous? The way I am thinking is i can have the solenoids ease into the 150 shot all the way through the rpm range so its not an instant spike on the motor. I have already hit the 150 a few times just playing around and she has actually survived the 200 shot once lol. that was a good bit of fun but i wont do it again cause it scared the crap outta me lol.

I am looking to run the 150 shot all the time and will also upgrade the fuel pump. I am thinking about getting this progressive controller anyways though because then i can spray right off the line and get the tires to hook and then have it kick in fully.

So anyone with knowledge on these progressive controllers please help.

 

[mustangman9812]

2 Stage Colder Plugs, Bigger Pump, Injectors, and Tune you be fine. I cant believe you tryed a 200 shot LOL!! I dont even have to ask if it was fun lol.

Cant Answer You Question on the Controler though sorry, I like the instant TQ LOL

 

[04GTMustang]

yea i already have the 2 step colder plugs. i dont think injectors will be necessary since its a wet kit. I know i need the fuel pump though thats next on my list. Ill probably get just about everything when i go home over christmas break. Ill make about 2 grand that is all going into the car.

oh and yes the 200 was fun. the 100 shot is nothing like what they make it out to be on fast and the furious lol where ur slammed into ur seat. but the 200 sure as hell is lol.

 

[Jackie Chan]

your feed lines probably arent supporting the whole 200shot


no need for a progressive controller and a 100-125 with bolt ons and slicks will put you in the 11's ..... check out jayc on here. my friend mark went 11.9 with a 75 dry kit and a pulled a 1.5 60' with only a few bolt ons and full weight. but his car was tuned perfectly

 

[stangsalwayswin]

About a year ago i was planning on trading in my 04 GT I already had the NX plate kit that goes under the plentium so i figured what the heck, so i put the 200shot jets in and it was GREAT it hit so hard, I raced a modded 03 cobra and beat him by a bus length! I took it to the track, it pulled the left front tire off the line but broke loose at the end of the track and still ran a 9.90 at 110 in a 1000'. I liked it so much I put the 250 jets in it and it took it like a champ, but I only tried that twice on the street. Its amazing how much N20 a stock motor will hold. I know this has nothing to do with nitrous controlers but if i was going to do it again i would have a 2 stage, put about a 100 shot on a full throttle switch and another 100 shot on a button just in case someone comes around you.

 

[Red35th]

FYI- progressive controllers have been known to destroy solenoids in no time.

You could just run a 2-stage set-up, but the problem isn't the initial hit so much as it is the amount of fuel you'd have running through your intake. (assuming you have a standard nozzle kit)

Goodluck with it. I can't imagine what a 200 shot would feel like. 100 is ridiculous.

Edit: Reading comprehension problems. You have a plate kit. I'd still be wary of that much fuel in the intake. Most guys spraying that much go with direct port.

 

[stangsalwayswin]

FYI- progressive controllers have been known to destroy solenoids in no time.

You could just run a 2-stage set-up, but the problem isn't the initial hit so much as it is the amount of fuel you'd have running through your intake. (assuming you have a standard nozzle kit)

Goodluck with it. I can't imagine what a 200 shot would feel like. 100 is ridiculous.

Edit: Reading comprehension problems. You have a plate kit. I'd still be wary of that much fuel in the intake. Most guys spraying that much go with direct port.

Yeah ive had a nitrous backfire make those plastic intakes explode! But they only cost about 150 bucks online and are easy to change. I promise the feel of a 200 shot is worth it!

 

[Stan Weiss]

At what RPM does your Nitrous start?
A 100 HP shot http://users.erols.com/srweiss/nitr-hp.gif
A 100 HP shot starting at 3000 RPM http://users.erols.com/srweiss/nitr-hp2.gif

 

[04GTMustang]

i start spraying right at 3000. it has that wot switch but that thing looks like it sucks so i just ran a longer wire and put it inside so now its a push button.

 

[04GTMustang]

Yeah ive had a nitrous backfire make those plastic intakes explode! But they only cost about 150 bucks online and are easy to change. I promise the feel of a 200 shot is worth it!

yea 200 is fun but just think about how much stress that is on everything lol. I was happy to have gotten away with it the first time i hit it but i wont do it again until i get forged internals.

 

[Smokeurhonda]

Anything over 150shot i would go direct port. IN regards to the plastic manifolds. Yeah they are cheap to replace but what happens when those fragments are injested into the heads? NO BUENO!

 

[d98gt]

I'll stick with the measely little 75 shot while you ruin the car with a 200

 

[ceracer33]

been running a 100 wet on mine for 2 years now, no problems whatsoever

 

[CENTENNIALSTANG]

Why would you want a controller for nitrous i think the best part is instant torque. Put some slicks on that beast ease into it

 

[04GTMustang]

I'll stick with the measely little 75 shot while you ruin the car with a 200

thats why i am not running the 200 shot. The 100 is my main one. I only tried the 200 once and had no intent on leaving it in thats just a ticking time bomb with a short fuse right there. most guys have been running 100 shots for years with no problems. just cant be retarded with nitrous lol

 

[04GTMustang]

Why would you want a controller for nitrous i think the best part is instant torque. Put some slicks on that beast ease into it

the controller depending on which one i get i can set it up either on a time scale so it pulses for a certain amount of time or i can set it for an rpm base so then i can have it running say 50% till about 3500 rpms that way i am off the line and moving so i dont blow the tires off. Controllers are good if u are limited to say a certain size drag radial so traction is pretty limited and a full on hit with nitrous off the line will break them loose instantly. i will eventually run some mickey thompsons but that wont be for some time cause ill have to replace my axles first. then replace the differentials, then drive shaft and eventually the whole drive train will be replaced thats just a lot of instant torque on all those parts and once u make one thing stronger then u have another weak link in there.

I would like to be able to shoot the 150 from now on so i am searching for parts to make it as safe as possible on the stock internals. I know no matter what i do it will be bullet proof but i would like to be as safe as i can until i am ready to build her up.

 

[d98gt]

I wouldn't even run the 150 unless you ALREADY have the money set aside and can afford the down time. I'm sure there will be a member or two come in here claiming to, or claiming to know someone that, sprays 150+ and has ran through 49010 bottles and hasn't seen a problem yet, though I personally wouldn't go that route.

You are getting too greedy and that will result in problems. That is the cause of most nitrous horror stories.

 

[CENTENNIALSTANG]

I blew mine up with 125 shot. But that controller seems pretty good i would try that controller to

 

[04GTMustang]

see how i am looking at it is i can setup the controller to slowly add more and more nitrous into the motor as teh rpms increase instead of all at once. so i can maybe start at like 60% and then increase throughout the rpm range and be at 100% by like 4500 or so.

so i was just wondering if u guys thought this logic would help out the longevity of the motor. or at least allow me to run a bigger shot of nitrous longer before she lets go.

 

[04GTMustang]

I wouldn't even run the 150 unless you ALREADY have the money set aside and can afford the down time. I'm sure there will be a member or two come in here claiming to, or claiming to know someone that, sprays 150+ and has ran through 49010 bottles and hasn't seen a problem yet, though I personally wouldn't go that route.

You are getting too greedy and that will result in problems. That is the cause of most nitrous horror stories.

i dont really believe too much into this getting to greedy business anymore. remember how everyone said our motors can handle 400rwhp no more its the limit. well lets all take a look at cody now aka hotmustang and he is now at 550rwhp on the stock longblock. what kills these motors is the high amounts of boost. such as superchargers they require more boost to make the hp of a turbocharger. But i dont wanna blow up my motor thats why i am coming on here asking these sorts of questions.

i think a progressive controller will be better with nitrous. nitrous is so dangerous because of the instant spike in pressure which is why torque is insane. and thats exactly what a progressive controller fights so u can hook up off the line and not blow the tires off. so thats why i am thinking if i slowly ease into the nitrous through the rpm range then just maybe u could run a higher shot