How To: sn95 seats (04 cobra) in a fox coupe (MANY pics)

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Here's the How-To thread for making sn95 seats fit in a fox coupe. The seats I used were "midnight black" leather with gray suede inserts from a 2004 Cobra that was wrecked. I don't think anyone has ever done a write-up on how to get these smaller seats (the rear seat is the major problem, as the rear seat backs are two pieces and much smaller than the stock coupe rear seat). I was discouraged at first after seeing the fitment of the reat seat, and was pretty close to just getting a rear seat delete kit. After a few minutes of thinking and tinkering i figured out a way to make them work. The seats were thoroughly cleaned and conditioned before installation, and it made a world of difference. Okay, enough blabbering, let's get started!

Dirty, dry and dusty seats the way i got them (this guy didn't take good care of his interior :()
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After a 2 hour complete cleaning, suede brushing and conditioning, and leather conditioning, they look much better :D
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Here's what i used to clean them, the suede brush was bought from a local shoe store
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Full power
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New wiring to power the seats, basically put a splitter wire on the 12v power source on the stock fox plug (see Mustang5L5s progress thread for pics)
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Installed! the fronts bolt right in
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rear seats cleaned up and conditioned just like the fronts
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here's a shot of the foam cut out from the seat bottom, pretty self explanatory, just see where it hits the floor and cut it out, this part was a lot of trial and error
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here are the wooden triangles i secured with 90 degree L brackets to the floor pan, the dimensions are 5" tall x 20" long, i'm not sure how one would secure these without drilling into the floor pans, feel free to chime in with a way if you can think of anything, i know some people might be weary of drilling into their fox's floors... and luckily all my fingers survived using the table saw :rolleyes: disclaimer: i suggest goggles for this part or calling someone who is comfortable with power tools if you've never used a machine like this before /endLegalBS:flag:
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i secured the seat backs with cable ties through the trunk area, and here's a shot of the gap left on the sides, THIS is the problem unique to doing this kind of thing in a coupe
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to fill the gaps i made a template of the space out of paper, and used a crayon to make a rubbing of the boundaries
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finished template
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here are the materials i found at a local wal-mart, $8.50 for the gray carpeting and $14.99 for the foam
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i traced the shape of the template and built up the foam in three dimensions to fill the gap, and then reversed it for the opposite side (just trace the pieces for the first side in reverse before gluing them)
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i'm a lot of things, but a seamstress isn't one of them, so sewing these damn things took me a long time, but they came out pretty good all wrapped in carpeting
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passenger side fit and finished
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driver side fit and finished
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FINALLY THE WHOLE REAR SEAT IS DONE! you can barely tell there was ever a gap there with these in place
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and here are pics of the finished product! i plan on switching to a black carpet and even tossing around the idea of keeping the gray floor mats on top of the black carpet, to keep the black and gray theme going... we'll see, enjoy!
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I hope this thread is useful to anyone trying to do this kind of thing in their own coupe, feel free to PM me or post replies with questions or comments

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Those are nice seats and you did an excellent job. I like the way they look and those custom fillers were a good idea!

When I put the SN95 bottom seat in my notchback, I welded the 94-04 rear seat cross brace in the fox so the SN95 seat clips in just like the factory seat. I had the notchback seat recovered to match. It sits up higher and is more work, but you don't have to shave foam from the SN95 seat. You need the use 94-04 carpet with this method as well. I should say it's more work to get the brace out of the SN95 than it is to weld into the fox.

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thanks for the kind words SVT, your method is the REAL way i would have liked to do it, unfortunately the junkyards around me were wiped clean of sn95s and that whole area of the donor car i got the seats from was tweaked from the crash (i couldn't even order those white seat clips from my local Ford dealer [wtf?])

i kinda feel like my way was the "quick and dirty" way of getting it done, but it was mostly improvised and i'm satisfied with the results for now, who knows if it will need revamping in the months and years to come, but for now it's doing its' job :nice:

Chris
 
There is nothing wrong with they way you did it. I actually skipped out on using the 2001 back seat because I didn't think I'd be able to make those side fillers you made.....Give yourself a pat on the back. :D

That brace was a NIGHTMARE to drill and chisel out of my 2001 donor car. I worked up that thing for a good hard hour. It doesn't sound like much, but just imagine using a drill and a Snap-On air hammer with all your might, then pounding with a 3 pound sludge. :notnice: I don't plan on doing that anytime soon, but if anybody does....cut the middle of it to make it two seperate peices. It comes out much faster and easier after you do that. Unfortunately I didn't figure that out until I yelled every cus word in the book at the thing...:rlaugh:
 
There is nothing wrong with they way you did it. I actually skipped out on using the 2001 back seat because I didn't think I'd be able to make those side fillers you made.....Give yourself a pat on the back. :D

That brace was a NIGHTMARE to drill and chisel out of my 2001 donor car. I worked up that thing for a good hard hour. It doesn't sound like much, but just imagine using a drill and a Snap-On air hammer with all your might, then pounding with a 3 pound sludge. :notnice: I don't plan on doing that anytime soon, but if anybody does....cut the middle of it to make it two seperate peices. It comes out much faster and easier after you do that. Unfortunately I didn't figure that out until I yelled every cus word in the book at the thing...:rlaugh:

hahah, sewing isn't a skill that's called upon normally when wrenching on a mustang, but i guess it came in handy this time :rlaugh:

OHHH MAN, i can only imagine what it was like trying to undo those hundreds of "precision spot welds" those Ford assembly line robots made on that brace with an air chisel and sledge, i think either my toes or back windshield would have been the victim if i had to do that job :rolleyes: but you're t3h hack master!!
 
hahah, sewing isn't a skill that's called upon normally when wrenching on a mustang, but i guess it came in handy this time :rlaugh:

OHHH MAN, i can only imagine what it was like trying to undo those hundreds of "precision spot welds" those Ford assembly line robots made on that brace with an air chisel and sledge, i think either my toes or back windshield would have been the victim if i had to do that job :rolleyes: but you're t3h hack master!!

That I am....:rlaugh: Honestly, the worst part was the corners. That brace is just what it is a brace. It is reinforced so much at each quarter panel. Double and tripp metal with multiple spot welds. That thing has got to stiffen all 94-04 Mustangs. Now of course if I had to do it again I would have done it different. I didn't weld mine in like it was in the SN95. It isn't reinforcing or bracing anything in Hack Job...it's just there to make the seat work. If I did it again, I'd weld it in like a brace, end to end, everything touching. I would then have notched "cut-outs" in the quarter trim panels (like the SN95 cars are) instead of slipping them inbetween the brace and the quarter panel. Just would have strengthened the car I think, plus the carpet would have fit better.
 
That I am....:rlaugh: Honestly, the worst part was the corners. That brace is just what it is a brace. It is reinforced so much at each quarter panel. Double and tripp metal with multiple spot welds. That thing has got to stiffen all 94-04 Mustangs. Now of course if I had to do it again I would have done it different. I didn't weld mine in like it was in the SN95. It isn't reinforcing or bracing anything in Hack Job...it's just there to make the seat work. If I did it again, I'd weld it in like a brace, end to end, everything touching. I would then have notched "cut-outs" in the quarter trim panels (like the SN95 cars are) instead of slipping them inbetween the brace and the quarter panel. Just would have strengthened the car I think, plus the carpet would have fit better.

that would be a really cool, hidden way to strengthen the chassis against torsion... maybe the trouble you had getting that thing out is a good excuse for jolly old Santa Claus to put a plasma cutter in your stocking this year :D
 
OMG...a plasma cutter would have been used over and over on Hack Job. I had to modify the the tail panel to accept the 87-93 tail lights, that was a 6 hour job. I spent all day cutting and welding metal into the tail....and that was supposed to be the day I got it running...lol. I'm glad I found out about that mess before it was painted!
 
Well you need coupe seats in a coupe or hatch

for a vert you'd need vert seats


I know TKRTRB did a writeup for install in a hatchback. I'll see if i can find his post and ask him if i can paste it into this thread.

Then all we'd need is a vert install
 
Looks pretty good! I've speculated for the people that asked about putting them in a coupe that a small upholstered spacer would work, or somehow push out the quarter panels a bit, but it looks pretty good with a spacer.

So you didn't get the white clips? I pulled some from another SN95 and used them on my wooden braces, and they worked out fine, the rear seat is pretty firm now. I do plan on using some of the expanding spray foam to fill in the seat bottom a bit more to fit the Fox floor, I ended up pulling out a bit too much of the foam in spots! :D

Here is the thread Mike mentioned where I put them in my hatch:

2002 seats in a 1991 GT How to get them in?! - Corral Forums
 
i have a hatchback. so if i decided to install the backseats i would do something differently? and is it really hard to get the eat out of a 96-04 car? cause i see some 2000-2004 mustangs in the junkyard with great interiors.
 
i have a hatchback. so if i decided to install the backseats i would do something differently? and is it really hard to get the eat out of a 96-04 car? cause i see some 2000-2004 mustangs in the junkyard with great interiors.

Look at the link I posted right above your post. It has the pictures of how I put mine in. Mike has some pics on his progress thread also. All you need is the seat bottom and the rear cushions, you don't need the seat back frame if you are putting them in a hatch.
 
Looks pretty good! I've speculated for the people that asked about putting them in a coupe that a small upholstered spacer would work, or somehow push out the quarter panels a bit, but it looks pretty good with a spacer.

So you didn't get the white clips? I pulled some from another SN95 and used them on my wooden braces, and they worked out fine, the rear seat is pretty firm now. I do plan on using some of the expanding spray foam to fill in the seat bottom a bit more to fit the Fox floor, I ended up pulling out a bit too much of the foam in spots! :D

Here is the thread Mike mentioned where I put them in my hatch:

2002 seats in a 1991 GT How to get them in?! - Corral Forums

thanks! yeah i didn't end up getting a hold of those clips, they were like impossible to find by me and i really wanted to get the seats in last weekend... i was really careful about cutting the foam and took over a full hour just doing that, so the seat rests on the floor really firmly, and multiple heavy duty cable ties are keeping it in place surprisingly well (i cable tied through the metal frame of the seat to the steel bar thats bolted to the stock floor pan that the rear seat belts are bolted to)

i have a hatchback. so if i decided to install the backseats i would do something differently? and is it really hard to get the eat out of a 96-04 car? cause i see some 2000-2004 mustangs in the junkyard with great interiors.

the seats will go into a hatch with much less work, no need for the inserts, this thread is solely for installing them in a coupe, check out trbkrb's thread for the hatch install

Chris
 
i have some questions. what tools should i be taking to the junkyard and my car doesnt have power seats so with this ill be able to use power seats and plus my rail is kinda cracked. will i be able to take the rail off the new mustang?
 
i have some questions. what tools should i be taking to the junkyard and my car doesnt have power seats so with this ill be able to use power seats and plus my rail is kinda cracked. will i be able to take the rail off the new mustang?

Should just need a socket set since all the items are just held in with bolts. As for the front seat tracks, all of the 79-04 seats will interchange, Ford did not change the mounting points on the floor. So you can get the newer seat with the track and it will bolt right in. As for the wiring, depending on your car, it may have the power lumbar wiring which will work just fine to power the power seat track. You just have to make some jumper wires to connect the seat to the lumbar harness. Get the wiring plug from the donor car if you can, with some length on the wires. If you don't have the lumbar plug, then you can just tap into the lighter circuit in the console for power and a ground.
 
i have some questions. what tools should i be taking to the junkyard and my car doesnt have power seats so with this ill be able to use power seats and plus my rail is kinda cracked. will i be able to take the rail off the new mustang?

the other guys in here answered most of these, but as far as using the sn95 seat tracks... i've heard a lot of guys say the sn95 tracks make them sit too high up in the car, so if you're a bigger guy your head may rub on the ceiling or something to that effect, i've heard some people complain and some people are fine with them...

while you're at the junkyard getting the sn95 seats look for some fox seat tracks too :shrug: or look in ebay or classifieds they shouldn't be too hard to find

Chris