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Mark89coupe said:Oh yeah!
I remember driving a 1995 ss camaro. It was fast as all hell and handled like a gocart.
They didn't bring back the SS camaro until '97
Mark89coupe said:Oh yeah!
I remember driving a 1995 ss camaro. It was fast as all hell and handled like a gocart.
5.0fox said:so to compare the 2 wouldnt u want to compare a stock ls1 car to a mustang with a 347 aluminum heads,injectors,tb,maf,gears,and an msd ignition? this is what i dont understand. how do you guys feel about this?
Mark89coupe said:Oh yeah!
I remember driving a 1995 ss camaro. It was fast as all hell and handled like a gocart.
super302 said:They didn't bring back the SS camaro until '97
SamSnyder said:...F-bodies are fast but complete POS's...
CrazyCobra said:Here is my take, the cars are close enough in wieght to say they're even, and the f-body is having a nearly 20% larger engine so there has to be some provisions given to the fox.
CrazyCobra said:Case one at the track, a stock engine 87 speed density notch with a set of 4.10's and some traction will likly give a stock ls1 every thing it can handle
CrazyCobra said:Case two my own car although modified have given (stock or not )ls1's nothing but tail lights. On the highway or on the street, I litterally drive past them in third gear(traction is a serious problem in my car) and they NEVER catch up. I can't say as to any modifacation on the ls1 i raced on the highway but it really dosen't matter when it is considered that I currently have less than 10,000 (canadian) into my car. Far less than you can get a ls1 for(around here anyway).
5.0fox said:i dont see why ls1 cars and fox bodies are allways compared. they are 2 very different cars. the ls1 is like 345 cube, aluminum heads,trick ignition, lower gears the stock mustang,bigger fuel system,bigger tb and maf. so to compare the 2 wouldnt u want to compare a stock ls1 car to a mustang with a 347 aluminum heads,injectors,tb,maf,gears,and an msd ignition? this is what i dont understand. how do you guys feel about this?
905.0GTford said:I have a 90 gt with a 5 speed with a new crate motor from Ford. It has headers an off road h pipe, flows and 373 gears. It is air pump and a/c delete, it is a strong runner. I also own a 99 WS6 that is full bolt ons and a cam, 3600 stall and 373 gears. When stock the stang would have giving the t/a a little bit of a run in 1st and second after that forget it the t/a would pretty much smoke it....And why shouldn't it in 1990 Ford did not have to compete with the LS1 for the most part the stang ruled the road until the 4th gen F body came out. The Mustang has countered with the s/c Cobra (glad my t/a is built alittle) I think when people compare the two LS1 versus the GT mustang you need to look at factory intent. Ford wanted a little screamer that the average Joe could afford and work on himself, Gm wanted a car that was for the most part already a screamer and price was not that important. I think both companys hit it out of the park in there intent. Where Gm went wrong was the Fbody should have been one model not 2 ( Camaro and Firebird)and the price was to high, most of the gearheads don't mind and even like modding there cars The LS1 is very advanced and hard to work on unless you have expensive programs and a laptop to tune with, and for the person who said I raced a LS1 with an exhaust and a chip well LS1's don't have chips you have to reprogram the computer. I don't buy into the Ford versus Gm thing they are both a hoot to drive and I love them both they are performance at its best.
Mean86GT said:331 stroker + boost = win
You are appearantly an idiot, that is not what I said. Go read it again, this time pay attention.5spd GT said:That would be me...and trust me...I read very well and respond better
That is what you put...so I responded to it...
JB66 said:Someone once said, "There is no substitute for cubic inches."
5spd GT said:Run what you brung...
WLDHRSE said:To the people who keep ripping my posts apart in this thread, PAY ATTETION TO THIS....
WLDHRSE said:I did not say anything about a stock or modified this, beating a stock or modified that.
WLDHRSE said:A couple people said that you had to have a H/C/I 5.0 to run with an LS1. I just stated you do not, which is FACT. If you need that stuff on your car to run with an LS1, maybe you should learn how to drive. Go back and read again, this time pay attention.
WLDHRSE said:To whoever suggested that I may not own both, 5 of my 6 foxes (one is in the warehouse at work) and my C5 are in the driveway. If your so insecure that you need proof, why don't you come by on June 25th and take a look. While your here I could use some help unloading my new FFR MkIII Roadster.
WLDHRSE said:You are appearantly an idiot, that is not what I said. Go read it again, this time pay attention.
WLDHRSE said:C5's are around 3000 lbs. "Much lighter".... if you remover the entire interior maybe.
CrazyCobra said:All I am saying is a stock Fox unfortunetly is no match for a stock LS1, so, as stated, some provisions must be given to the stang.
CrazyCobra said:I have witnessed a bone stock(had an o/r H) 87 notch back with 4.10's and BF drag radials run in th 13.2x 's all day, how fast does a LS1 run in the 1/4? If by "pull that 100mph trapping car" you mean after the 1/4, the race is already over.
CrazyCobra said:My current setup and future setups are in my garage.
CrazyCobra said:Not looking for an argument. but lighten up and quite ripping apart everyone's posts.