Exactly - peak hp. gains are minimal, if any on a N/A car, but many LT owners will argue this too. Nobody is in a hurry to admit they just installed LT's and saw very little peak gain. You are the first to admit it that I have seen. Thanks for the honest feedback. There isn't enough of it out there. We could also get rid of a ton of misleading information about mods. if everyone just posted SAE horsepower numbers. As we all know, uncorrected numbers are higher and "look" better. They are crap for comparison purposes though. Yet, I continue to see them posted daily. My car is dynoed at 250 SAE rwhp/ 292 SAE rwtq. I highly doubt my car would see much PEAK gain from adding LT's at this point and staying N/A. I'd maybe see 260/300, but that's just not worth the money or effort in my opinion. I could add a plenum/TB for less money and far less installation effort and see some more peak gain. One thing is for sure, LT's do sound awesome. Nobody will debate that one.