Progress Thread Slow Boat To China

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  1. 84Ttop

    84Ttop They make new pistons every day, so why worry? SN Certified Technician Mod Dude

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    There is more pride in doing it yourself in my opinion. Anxiously awaiting some.progress pics so get to work. Lol
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  2. tannerc91gt

    tannerc91gt More durable than coconuts and twice as fast

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    Hurry up! I want to see it live!
  3. hoopty5.0

    hoopty5.0 Mustang Master

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    Garage is done. Gonna tear the motor down tonight and fix the main bearing I put in backward as well as put the stock truck cam back in for now. The cam I have is too big for the PAC 1218 springs and I don't feel like buying new springs again.

    Gonna keep it moving for a while til I run out of parts to install.

    @tannerc91gt Want a bada$$ turbo cam for your 6.0? .610/.610 113+3 LSA.. Can't remember duration off the top of my head.
  4. FoxMustangLvr

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    There may be more to your setup than this picture shows but....

    A little advice on your rafter setup. When you cut those two rafters and supported them by those "beams", you moved the LOAD that the (cut) rafters were once supporting onto the rafters your homemade beams are attached to with the hangers. What did you do to reinforce those rafters that now are carrying way more load than they were originally sized for? They're also carrying the load of the steel I-beam, trolley and attachments, plus motor and trans. You could double/sister those rafters or put a post under them where the beam intersects. Hopefully you fully nailed those beams together. If you were to ever sell your home, you MAY NOT pass a home inspection due to this modification to the STRUCTURE of your home.

    In some engineering we underrate the advertised capacity knowing somebody will exceed it a little. i.e, A 300 lb person will try to save a few bucks and buy a ladder rated at 250#. With homes there are extra allowances for seismic, lateral, wind load, snow load etc. However there isn't much play with beams, studs & headers. They are calculated to take only so much load (by local/state codes). In order to "over engineer" studs, rafters & beams it would cost Contractors too much money where as their main goal is profit. You probably work in construction so you should know that. So I don't think you should have the notion of "it can take more than it was originally designed for, that's just how engineers design things".

    On another note, the panels are looking real nice and inspire me to possibly do my own when my car gets parked for next winter.
  5. tannerc91gt

    tannerc91gt More durable than coconuts and twice as fast

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    I'm all set on a camshaft, thanks though.
    Bummer you can't use it but the cars gonna make some power either way
  6. hoopty5.0

    hoopty5.0 Mustang Master

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    Not pictured but still to be used are the 4x6" vertical support posts that I'll put back under the rafters once I put a load on it. I framed the rafters similar to how we frame in attic access ladders here on the apartment complex Im working on. The double 2x12 beams are nailed together, and since it's a detached garage, it really doesn't add or detract from the value of the home itself. When/if I move, I'll rebuild the rafters to be like they were originally, with an extra 2x12 nailed on either side of the repaired rafters. Shouldn't be any cause for concern since its just 4 walls and a roof.

    I figured you probably had something, but thought Id offer anyway. I'll keep it and swap it back in once I grow into it and can handle more power. Springs are about $225 so it's not like its that big of a deal.
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  7. madmike1157

    madmike1157 the humor is still lost on me SN Certified Technician

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    Dude,.....tell me that you haven't read my story about my old garage w/ the 4x6 beam, and the vertical supports to help reinforce the span???:shrug::shrug::shrug:
  8. FoxMustangLvr

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    Do tell! :pop:
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    madmike1157 the humor is still lost on me SN Certified Technician

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  10. hoopty5.0

    hoopty5.0 Mustang Master

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    Uhhhmmmm No? Written on here?






    So I tore the engine down tonight. Turns out the cam is too big, valves kissed the pistons. So I'm going to sell it and put it towards the turbo. And Im about to order new bearings for the crank. Should have the engine together soon and stuffed into the car to start more fab work.
  11. 84Ttop

    84Ttop They make new pistons every day, so why worry? SN Certified Technician Mod Dude

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    Oops... Need a few valves I'm guessing?
  12. hoopty5.0

    hoopty5.0 Mustang Master

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    nah, just a little contact. could i fly cut the pistons myself with a spare valve and sand paper?
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  13. 84Ttop

    84Ttop They make new pistons every day, so why worry? SN Certified Technician Mod Dude

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    You could clean them up yourself no problem. I would check the valves that touched though as they are more than likely bent.
    I have always used a dremel in the past to cut the pockets in an assembled motor and never had an issue.
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    hoopty5.0 Mustang Master

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    What clearance should I cut to? And like your CT says, 'they make new pistons every day, so why worry?'

    So now I gotta sell my PAC 1218s and buy 1219s instead of the cam... Ok, I can do that I think....
  15. 84Ttop

    84Ttop They make new pistons every day, so why worry? SN Certified Technician Mod Dude

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    i would like to see you have at least .060 on the intake and exhaust valves. And for the record, if you do mess this up horribly they do infact make new pistons every day ;)
  16. hoopty5.0

    hoopty5.0 Mustang Master

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    I got the dremel tool out with a little wire brush and cleaned the crud off the pistons. The valves were baaaarely hitting. I cut reliefs based on the marks. Should be ok now, I cut more out than I thought id need then hit it with a flap disk to get rid of the sharp edges.
  17. 84Ttop

    84Ttop They make new pistons every day, so why worry? SN Certified Technician Mod Dude

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    Sounds like a plan! If you want to check the heads, pour some gasoline in the combustion chamber as see if it holds it. If gas comes out the intake or exhaust runner you have a bent valve.
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    hoopty5.0 Mustang Master

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    Well... I'm stumped. Put some play doh in the cylinders, assembled the engine, rolled it over a few times and took it back apart. Seems to be the thickness of 2 quarters between the valve and the top of the piston. The ONLY thing I can think of (and it hit me as I was typing this) is I had the timing set on the wrong tooth and I had contact there.

    Which makes me feel a little like an idiot, but whatever, it happens. I need to sell my valve springs now and buy the next step up to handle the lift.
  19. Noobz347

    Noobz347 Stangnet Facilities Maint Tech... Er... Janitor Admin Dude

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    What are you making posts with that causes there to be commercial links embedded? I just removed link from the words "Play doh" and "valve spring" from your post above. If it's a computer then you have maleware/adware. If it's a free browser of some sort on a mobile device, then it's not on the up and up either. The one for play doh was a link to Amazon and the other was a link to Bizrate.
  20. madmike1157

    madmike1157 the humor is still lost on me SN Certified Technician

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    That's the "insider deal" he made w/ Amazon, and Bizrate so he can afford to build the car.
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