1320stang
Founding Member
Why shouldn't GM make SBF's, Ford isn't.
because its always mustang vs camaro.
I would personaly run the LS motor instead of tghe ford. Lets face it, the LSx is better in almost every respect than the regular small block ford windsor or cleveland. Its just better made, makes more power, and in the end is cheaper. I would like to see
That's why they cost big bucks and don't last very long. Ford never built a max effort V8 for a production car. They built mild engines that last a long time.
No max effort production V8's ? Then what were the 427's, Boss 302's, 428SCJ's and the 429's, both CJ, SCJ and the Boss 9? And the newest, the DOHC 5.4 used in the GT40?
No max effort production V8's ? Then what were the 427's, Boss 302's, 428SCJ's and the 429's, both CJ, SCJ and the Boss 9? And the newest, the DOHC 5.4 used in the GT40?
I might raise some hackles here, but IMO the LSx is the best production pushrod V8 ever built.
now talk about a truck motor stuffed in a car...that would be the 5.4 in the Gt40. ok, so it's a totaly redesigned truck engine.
also, i keep seeing different diplacement numbers for the GT, i've seen 5.4 and 5.7.
The 3V 4.6 in my 06 Stang does the same thing. It's a function of the cams being dialed in by the computer, and the secondaries kicking in. Slow up to about 2500, then hold your ass, cause this thing's about to take off........................I dunno, Bryan; I drive two different 5.4's daily - a 2V in my '02 4x4, and a 3V in "my" '08 F250 company truck. Both of them don't really "wake up" until around 2200-2400 RPM. That's not my idea of a "truck engine".
Hooo-leeee cr@p! It's got a Hemi????
Trying to make the point that could also have been made many other ways. A Cleveland could make big power with factory 4V CC heads if the supporting parts were there.i completely understood your point and was just making the point that the GM didn't build the LS to be as powerful as it could be either.
BTW, the Yates heads weren't available until the late 80's/early 90's so that wouldn't have worked back in 70 anyway. i assume you didn't know that, but maybe you did and were just making a point
The 3V 4.6 in my 06 Stang does the same thing. It's a function of the cams being dialed in by the computer, and the secondaries kicking in. Slow up to about 2500, then hold your ass, cause this thing's about to take off........................
Trying to make the point that could also have been made many other ways. A Cleveland could make big power with factory 4V CC heads if the supporting parts were there.
Yeah I agree with you and D.Hearne - perhaps maxed out is the wrong way to say it. The only real maxed out motors are rebuilt at the end of each quarter mile they run. There's a continuum of mild to wild and the LSx are farther toward the wild.
You may still not agree, but that's my thought. My whole point is that you can make the same HP/cube with a small block Ford, and people do it all the time when they customize their engines. However, Ford didn't do it for us.
I dunno, Bryan; I drive two different 5.4's daily - a 2V in my '02 4x4, and a 3V in "my" '08 F250 company truck. Both of them don't really "wake up" until around 2200-2400 RPM. That's not my idea of a "truck engine".
Hooo-leeee cr@p! It's got a Hemi????