What does it take to convert our cars to a distributorless ignition system?
It'd be nice to get rid of the distributor.
I assume we'd need a crank trigger ...
It'd be nice to get rid of the distributor.
I assume we'd need a crank trigger ...
So what are the advantages of dist-less ignition?
I mean, dont top fuel dragsters use distributers?
answer me this and i'll help you out.
Which way do you want to go
Explorer/96-98 GT Coil Packs and still have plug wires
or go wild like me
And go Coil on Plug
Now you have 2 Ways of running this... You wanna stay OBD 1 or 2?
Theres alot of factors.. Ill give you the run down of my wifes car.. Its OBD1 running without an tuning software.
408W.. If you don't know, Ford never made a Cam Sync sensor for a 351W nor did they make a trigger wheel. What I did was took a 3.8L V6 99+ Cam Sync and removed the shaft and installed it into a Explorer Cam Sync 00+ 5.0L. There now you have a 351W Cam Sync.
Now we got that part down. Now you if staying OBD1 and stock Computer you will need a Iginition Module. For this you need an EDIS8 module you can get off of crown vics 93-96ish and t-birds 4.6Ls. For the Trigger wheel I bought a new Explorer Balancer and took my balancer to my machine shop and they pulled the Trigger wheel off and installed it onto the back of the 28oz balancer. They made a steel ring so they could press it onto the new balancer.
Wiring the fun part.. You can use the stock wiring and cut/hack and make it work. Or be an idiot like me with alot of time on his hands and make your own based off a OBD2 harness converted down to OBD1. Meaning changing the EEC connector. Still alot of wiring and repining but the 94-95 V6 already has the Iginition module connector built on. Now for an Injector harness i would recommend a 96-98 GT or 99-03 GT pending if using coil on plug or coil packs.
No matter which way you go it'll take time. I'm actually thinking of producing some cam syncs and wiring here soon if I get more time. Since I have it down to a science and no what to do.
My Opinion the Coil on Plug system is great. Loved how it idled and ran.. After driving it I will never go back to distributor ignition.. I'm going to be building another one for my 302 car this winter. For now going to run a distributor.
Danny
Any questions just ask.
i wouldn't be against going with a completely different computer (stock or aftermarket) and harness if it would be more straightforward (or less work) and get me better reliability and drivability. this buildup is all about reliability and daily drivability (with a ton of torque thrown in for good measure).
and i'm not too worried about controlling the tranny (i have a 4R70W) because i can use a baumannator or a manual valve body for that.
damn, with the 410, the 4R70W, all new paint and interior, a GPS, and a DIS, i bet this baby will be magazine worthy when it is done ...
Unfortuantley there is no aftermarket wiring for this. This is something you have to do or nicely ask someone .... Are you using the Tweecer now to control the 4r70W? If you are I would just stay with the computer you have and go from there. When I had the setup on the car for testing it drove nice and smooth and the the timing was always dead on.
If I knew more people would be interested in the wiring I would order the stuff needed to make a few sets and I would get some started. Only thing besides the wiring that took the longest was the Coil on Plug bracket that we had to make to mount the Coils.
Danny
Unfortuantley there is no aftermarket wiring for this. This is something you have to do or nicely ask someone .... Are you using the Tweecer now to control the 4r70W? If you are I would just stay with the computer you have and go from there. When I had the setup on the car for testing it drove nice and smooth and the the timing was always dead on.
If I knew more people would be interested in the wiring I would order the stuff needed to make a few sets and I would get some started. Only thing besides the wiring that took the longest was the Coil on Plug bracket that we had to make to mount the Coils.
Danny
here are some crank trigger kits that look like they might work for a 351 ...
http://www.msdignition.com/mag_1.htm
http://www.msdignition.com/mag_2.htm
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=MSD-8640&autoview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=MOR-60004&autoview=sku
and would this be the camshaft position sensor you would use?
http://store.summitracing.com/partd...rt=MSD-2346&N=700+4294815127+115&autoview=sku