jstreet0204
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Stang|ess said:B. They're actually more low to midrange with their sequential turbos.
+1 The twin sequential turbos on the supras and rx7's are not the same thing as true twin turbos.
Stang|ess said:B. They're actually more low to midrange with their sequential turbos.
nope didnt say they was dumb. just that superchargers are an easy way of getting boost(nofab required). and im saying to those same sc guys that just cuz you have boost imediately doesnt meen jack. an sc gets full boost at redline(except twin screw) compared to a turbos full boost from 2600 up to redline. and a kb will run out of steam up top unlike a centrifigal and turbo. and if your racing from stop light to stop light? whats full boost going to help you at 2k rpms compared to upper rpm range? nada thats where. i hope your not racing at 2k rpm?a97mustang said:Turbofreek,and as far as stupidcharger i hope that is not to say people with blowers are dumb cuz that could get nasty.and NO i dont plan to loose and if i do oh well it took you that much more money to beat me.and if i blow it up oh well ill be back BIGGER and BADDER.trust me.not to say turbos aint guick.but,anyway lets just stick with supercharger not stupidcharger.PEACE
sgarlic said:A twin kit for 99-04 is $6300 direct from HP Performance. Full boosted, they push 1000+rwhp. They also include the suspension related pieces. They aren't tuner kits, they include injectors, MAF, chip, etc. Again, that's $6300. I priced them out locally, and found them for under 6.
A 9# KB costs what, 5 grand? And that's for 400ish rwhp. So bump it up to a 14psi and max out timing, then you're now pushing the limits of the supercharger, and still making not even 3/4 the power of a twin turbo kit that costs only a grand more.
This is how I reasoned myself in to picking the HP kit. If anything, its more appealing to me because not many people do it.
MarcoCapone said:the only "stupid" here are those who think that they can throw a twin turbo kit and get 1200 rwhp.... God damn they are saying that the turbos can handle (or provide depending how you want to see it) up to 1200 rwhp they never said that your engine will support it...Anyways at this point (1000 rwhp++) we're talking about fully build race engine. And by the ways you can get 1000 rwhp++ with a supercharger too, so please stop with a$$ comment like stupidcharger and just says the advantage of what you think is the best instead of bashing on what other people think is the best 'cause this is really a ricer mind...
The KB 2.2/2.4 has been proven to provide full boost and be quite efficient all the way up to redline. The older versions and 1.7 may tail off in the upper RPM's but the newer larger versions are more race oriented. I've seen some dyno's of cars out of MPH and those babies pull hard straight through. Just take a look at Jim Fitz's car. I'm sure he'll chime in eventually.turbofreek said:nope didnt say they was dumb. just that superchargers are an easy way of getting boost(nofab required). and im saying to those same sc guys that just cuz you have boost imediately doesnt meen jack. an sc gets full boost at redline(except twin screw) compared to a turbos full boost from 2600 up to redline. and a kb will run out of steam up top unlike a centrifigal and turbo. and if your racing from stop light to stop light? whats full boost going to help you at 2k rpms compared to upper rpm range? nada thats where. i hope your not racing at 2k rpm?
and this post is for insight not a call out. ive got nothin to prove just trying to help explain the pros and cons. and with the argument/complaints it helps to see both sides. you have to choose whats better for you. not what others are trying to deligate is best.
because a single setup on those cars have no low end and twins arent efficient on those engines.Stang|ess said:B. They're actually more low to midrange with their sequential turbos.
well time to get into the real world and not the internet world. Single setups are for dyno queens and street racing. Anyone that wants to make real power on a V style engine will go twins. If most racing classes allowed for dual power adders, you would see a lot of twin setups.C. How can you generalize and say "they mostly street race". What an ignorant thing to say mang. There are quite a few drag racing Supras, and one that I know of on the island running 10s.
What are you smoking? We have a large engines and produce low end power??? IF we produce low end power than why are gears some of the first mods people install?I'm saying go single since we have a fairly large engine and have the low end power already.
mogs01gt said:because a single setup on those cars have no low end and twins arent efficient on those engines.
Take into consideration the year of your car. The basic bones 1.7L kit for a '99-'01 Cobra is going to run you $4,500. Tack on another $300 if you want the upgrades. What's that get ya......5psi.....350rwhp if you're lucky!?!? That's a lot of cheese for that little performance. So...you pony up to the $6,800 for the intercooled version to finally make a little power.....and even still the 1.7L runs out of breath before 500rwhp on street gas.four.six said:what do you all think about this turbo system?...
http://www.proturbokits.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=126
or should i just go with a kenne bell 1.7??
thanks for the input guys!!!!