ADRENLN said:
yea it does help, thanks guys. is the c&l a black plastic unit? i dont like the chrome pro-m unit. also i heard that it you want to get a dyno tune, the tuner might not do it with the c&l, is this true and why? thanks guys
Why wouldn't he want to tune with the C&L? Likely because it's a mix of aftermarket parts (the C&L tube itself, which is aluminum) and the stock electronics (the MAF sensor). It's probably hit or miss tuning with it, as opposed to the Pro-M, which has its own electronics. The C&L does nothing more than lean out the A/F mixture and thereby making more power. I added the 85mm C&L MAF (for the 02 on up it's 85mm, for the 01 on down, it's 80mm) along with the C&L Trueflow inlet pipe, as well as an Accufab TB and plenum. It was awesome, but I was later convinced by many people that due to my already lean (dynoed at a max of 15:1) condition brought on by my SCT dyno tuned chip, I was likely even further leaning the car out and the result could be dangerous. So, the OEM MAF went back on along with a paper filter. And ya know what? I can barely tell the difference.
The reason for this is the fact that the OEM MAF is more than sufficient for a basically stock motor...up to about 350 HP actually.
I've still got my C&L MAF and I may put it back on...but I'd really like to get it on a dyno when I do. But if I had it to do over again I wouldn't have bought it.
If you really want to help the intake bottleneck, get rid of the rubber hose intake tube (the
K&N FIPK Gen 2 works well...or Densecharger), replace the intake plenum (actually it's an elbow) and move up to a 70mm or 75mm TB. The C&L plenum is very popular, as is the Accufab, but it's a bit pricier but is also polished. And as far as TBs are concerned, everyone seems to use the Accufab to test with...which is exactly why I bought it. Not cheap, but a quality piece.
And if you haven't done so yet, work the exhaust from back to front, replacing the cat-back first. Add gears and a Pro-50 or Tri-Ax shifter and you'll be having a good ol' time!!!
