101blur said:I own a mach1 and my bro owns an 02 slp ss his is auto and mine is manual. were neck a neck at the drag but It all comes down to the driver, yes the ss is a faster car but I'll have to hang with the mach 1 over the gm product. I now one thing and that is that my mach one well out handel that camero anyday lol
killermach1 said:if you can drive at all you can smoke an LS1 abuddy of mine has a 01 Bullit with CAI and MAF and thats it he Smoked a 00 SS. and he tells me my car is faster than his so there ya go besides LS1 equipped cars are hevier and the Mach 1 was made to kill at straight line races.
did I ever say that f bodies werent? no. I said that mach 1s were as opposed to other attempts by ford. The cobra couldn't match the camero for years. but it's IRS isnt made to drag its made to perform handeling wise so next time you want to bash someones opinion quote them correctly I have nothin against f bodies I'm just a ford man myself just like your a GM guy. tthere isnt anything wrong with a little friendly riverlry. but for God's sake man cant we all just get along?RealQuick said:![]()
So you are saying a GT (thats a bullit powerwise) with MAF and CAI can take an LS1? Thanks for the laugh dude. Obviously the kid in the SS cant drive. Mach's are made to kill instraightline, versus the solid reared fbodies that werent? This thread actually had some good level headiness toward the end till you chimed in. Thanks for the laugh!
killermach1 said:ok i'll admit that my first statement was stupid . your right just because he did it once shouldn't make it a given. but what I said about the Mach for the straight line isn't because I like to brag I have read numerous articles andreviews of the Mach that said this was ford's idea about straight line performance that is. Oh and my bad my buddie he also has a diablo chip and a 50 shot of nitros just found that out, oopsanyway no hard feelings
killermach1 said:One other thing LS1 is an engine designation if i'm not mistaken Right? not a car designation, meaning a Z28, SS, Corvette all have LS1 engines. The difference is the level of performance if I'm not mistaken when they still made camero's the z28's best HP was 305 the SS was 320-330 range and the vette well we all know they are out of our league. So saying a stock LS1 will always beat a stock Mach is pushing it a little isn't it I mean the last LS1 equipped Z28 came with almost exactly the same power figures as the mach and the SS only had a hand full more ponies hell put a good cat back on and your right in the mix. so when we say LS1 why don't we clear up which LS1 were talking about it will be easier for arguements sake any way. no like anyone is going to give any ground we all have our favorites so lets just let it go and suffice to say we'll all win some of the time and lose some of the time no car is invencible.![]()
killermach1 said:Cool. so were good then? I'm not tryin to get into somthing here, I made a rash claim on my first post and have been trying to make up for it since. I just want you to know that I'm not as stupid as my early post may have seemed.
2000RamAir said:i have a stock 2000 WS6 with the A4 auto. and stock at 1,800 above sea level it runs 13.2 and 13.3 all day. i never did anything to this car.
this car also has the stock 3:23 gears and aluminum drive shaft.and the WS6 has a different cam then the regular z-28 and trans am plus the camaro SS is .02 tens slower then the WS6 . plus them other guys got 2:93 gears. and they dont have ram air.
now when you talk about LS1 ,the GTO has 350HP and the vette has 345HP.
Don't get me wrong im a great lover of mustangs i had a 99LX 5.0 convertable (green and black top) and a 99GT. both in the 14,s
as far as handling goes a WS6 Trans Am will kill any mustang in handling. WS6 is a motor and suspension package. regular Z i would bet on the mach
and may i add then when i goto the track i dont even see cobra run in the 13,0's inless there 03 or 04 cobras
so to sum up your awnser:
IF u have a mack1 it all depends what kind of ls1` u race. if both stock ,they will all get you but u have a better chance versus the z-28
in order the LS1 goes like this fastest : Vette or ws6
GTO
SS
trans am
Z-28
may i add that the a4 auto is faster then the m6 manual in the 1/4 mile to
the reson why stangs are kinda slow isnt that they have 305 HP and a good WS6 has 300HP its that the LS1 is a bigger motor and the 4.6 just aint got the tourque. i dont give a **** how much HP u got its tourque that moves a car
a LS1 is like a big block agist a small block 4.6
i know that 1998 cobras that have the same HP as the mach1 4v 305HP only runs in the 14,s
so if u race a LS1 pick a z-28 with a stick and if there both stock u will loose anyhow. later guys
He had to get his opinion out there.RealQuick said:So did you actually do a search to pull up this relic of a thread :Teh-Win: