So I forgot to turn my fog lights out

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A few days ago i hear a knock on my door. It was the guy that lives up in the alley i park in. He said i left my fog lights on i walk back up with him. Turn the key and have a dead battery. We jump it off his truck and ever since then my battery some times it starts sometime it wont. I go to advanced auto parts to get them to check it and the alt. He did the battery test said 530 CCA unhooked his tester. I was like can i get the alt. Tested to and when he hooked it back up the CCA was already done to 310. This was in about 30 seconds.

Ended up getting a 720 CCA battery from Wal-Mart there were all the same price. Its just a little bit bigger. I replaced the cables with some 4 gauge stereo power wire also added 2 more motor to frame grounds and got new terminals too

i wanna up grade the alt. to a 3g 150 amp unit and also move the battery to the trunk. Were do i ground it at? and how do i wire the 3g to my car?
 
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Do you race the car? If not I wouldn't move the battery. If you think you have charging problems now,wait till you move the battery.
 
My battery relocation was a complete success....

I would be worried about 4g audio cable tho...

I used #2/0 welding cable.... Very fine strands so it is very flexible.
Welding Cable #2/0 (00) AWG

I put the end of the terminal in a vice and put a torch on it, filled it with solder, and while it was hot put the end of the cable down into the lug. I also used marine style terminal connections on the battery... Heat shrink any connections... Don't half-ass anything... It will come back to bite you later.
 
You shouldnt have any issue moving the battery to the trunk. It just sounded like your battery was old and leaving the lights on drained it past its life. Use a MINIMUM 2ga wire for power and ground wires when running the battery from the trunk. It is recomended the ground wire not be longer than 3ft. in length, common place to hook it up to is a quad shock bolt, I hooked my up to the bumper bracket. With a new battery, 3g alternator and proper sized wires, you shouldnt have any issue at all. Also be sure to run a large ground wire from the engine to the chasis. The alternator case grounds through the engine and needs a strong ground.
 
For a battery cut off switch, see Moroso : Category Display
is the switch http://www.moroso.com/catalog/images/74102_inst.pdf is the installation instructions.
Use the super duty switch and the following tech note to wire it and you will
be good to go.

Use the Moroso plan for the alternator wiring and you risk a fire. The 10
gauge wire they recommend is even less adequate that the stock Mustang
wiring.

There is a solution, but it will require about 40' of 18 gauge green wire.

Wire the battery to the two 1/2" posts as shown in the diagram.

The alternator requires a different approach. On the small alternator plug
there is a green wire. It is the sense lead that turns the regulator on when
the ignition switch is in the run position. Cut the green wire and solder the
40' of green wire between the two pieces. Use some heat shrink to cover the
splices. See Ford Fuel Injection » How To Solder Like a Pro for some excellent
help on soldering & using heat shrink tubing.

Run the green wire back to the Moroso switch and cut off the excess wire.
Try to run the green wire inside the car and protect it from getting cut or
chaffed. Crimp a 18 gauge ring terminal (red is 18 gauge color code for the crimp
on terminals) on each wire. Bolt one ring terminal to each of the 3/16" studs.
Do not add the jumper between the 1/2" stud and the 3/16" stud as shown it the
Moroso diagram.

How it works:
The green wire is the ignition on sense feed to the regulator. It supplies a turn
on signal to the regulator when the ignition switch is in the Run position. Turn the
Moroso switch to off, and the sense voltage goes away, the voltage
regulator shuts off and the alternator quits making power.

The fuse & wiring in the following diagram are for a 3G alternator. The stock alternator uses a dark green fuse link wire that connects to 2 black/orange wires. Always leave them connected to the starter solenoid even if you have a 3G alternator.

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See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer)
& Stang&2Birds (website host) for help on 88-95 wiring
Mustang FAQ - Wiring & Engine Info Everyone should bookmark this site.

Ignition switch wiring
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/IgnitionSwitchWiring.gif

Fuel, alternator, A/C and ignition wiring
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

Complete computer, actuator & sensor wiring diagram for 88-91 Mass Air Mustangs
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91_5.0_EEC_Wiring_Diagram.gif

Vacuum diagram 89-93 Mustangs
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/mustangFoxFordVacuumDiagram.jpg


Rear mounted battery ground wiring. Follow this plan and you will have zero
ground problems.


One 1 gauge or 1/0 gauge wire from battery negative post to a clean shiny spot
on the chassis near the battery. Use a 5/16” bolt and bolt it down to make the
rear ground. Use a 1 gauge or 1/0 gauge wire from the rear ground bolt to a clean
shiny spot on the block.

One 4 gauge wire from the block where you connected the battery ground wire to
the chassis ground where the battery was mounted up front. Use a 5/16” bolt
and bolt down the 4 gauge engine to chassis ground, make sure that it the metal
around the bolt is clean & shiny. This is the alternator power ground.

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The computer has a dedicated power ground wire with a cylindrical quick connect
(about 2 ½”long by 1” diameter. It comes out of the wiring harness near the
ignition coil & starter solenoid (or relay). Be sure to bolt it to the chassis ground
in the same place as you bolted the alternator power ground. This is an
absolute don’t overlook it item for EFI cars

Note: The quick disconnect may have fallen victim to damage or removal by
a previous owner. However, it is still of utmost importance that the black/green
wires have a high quality ground..

The screwdriver points to the common body ground for the alternator, battery and computer.

Picture courtesy timewarped1972

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Crimp or even better, solder the lugs on the all the wire. The local auto stereo
shop will have them if the auto parts store doesn't. Use some heat shrink tubing
to cover the lugs and make things look nice.