Let's go over this one time since you think it's "fishy". I'm not going to answer every single one of your trivial questions. The guy's at DiabloSport are professionals and know what they are doing. Every car is not the same, every dyno run will not be the same unless it's some multi-million dollar facility. You can stop your bench racing and go by the actual numbers.
The tuner @ DiabloSport ran the car on the dyno numerous times with the stock intake, with various tunes and then as well with the C&L intake and various tunes.
Contrary to what you (TGJ) claims, it is evident by the #'s that a CAI does indeed make a difference. If you wan't further proof, hell I'll take video footage next time so you can quit your 5000 word essay posts.
DYNO WITH STOCK TUNE + STEEDA AXLE BACK + STOCK INTAKE = 265 RWHP
DYNO WITH TUNE + STEEDA AXLE BACK + STOCK INTAKE = 278 RWHP
DYNO WITH TUNE + STEEDA AXLE BACK + C&L INTAKE = 290 RWHP
Let's do the math...
Mufflers only - 265
Tune & Mufflers - 278
Tune, CAI & Mufflers - 290
That's a 25 RWHP gain with the tune AND CAI over having just the mufflers and a 12 RWHP gain over just the tune & mufflers. According to what I was told by a PROFESSIONAL that does this EVERY SINGLE DAY that we can likely squeeze out some more gains with some more time and tuning, hence me bringing it back by.
As for me only showing 2 runs, he ran the car numerous times on the dyno, I only asked him for the "stock" and "C&L" runs to be printed.
So you don't want to answer the questions, YOUR NUMBERS ARE MEANINGLESS!!!. I will continue to say CAI's are a waste until proven otherwise. I don't care how professional DiabloSport is in your opinion. Unless this is done in a controlled environment then there is too many variables that can affect the numbers. Chassis Dyno's are not as reliable for numbers as engine Dyno's. They can be manipulated.. That is my issue with your numbers...
Your numbers are less meaningful than what I found at the track...
Your initial post showing the numbers...
#'s are in fellas.
290.2 RWHP with the C&L Street Kit + a custom tune by Kevin @ DiabloSport. We were unhappy with the #'s so there is some more tuning to be done, not to mention the weather was horrible (open garage dyno area). I'm taking it back to Diablo next week for some more minor adjustments and hoping for some cooler weather.
You can see the gains over the Stock Intake Assembly + Tune so those who say the CAI kits are "worthless" or "dont make a difference" can see, you indeed do get some nice gains on them. Note that the only other mod I have is the Steeda Axle-Back
So is that graph showing a 25 peak hp increase from a CAI?
Yes sir. Wish the dyno printout showed the actual peak #'s like others do.
He wants to do more testing on the car next week so we could likely see some more gains from it.
That is your posts, that leads people to think that the CAI is 25 RWHP over top of your tuned car. That is what I thought I read and others as well.
I am not bench racing, you are. You are the ones arguing dyno numbers not me. I take my car to the track. I have seen what CAI/tuned cars do and I have seen what tuned cars do.