Drivetrain welding axle tubes

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  1. Exile

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    back to the subject.

    Yes, you can weld the tubes, but I've often seen pro shops use a jig that aligns the tubes with each other prior to welding. I'm not even sure if the tubes are colinear with each other or if there is a slight degree of negative toe in the axle. These are questions that you really need to find out the answer for before you weld.

    Welding a hollow tube can be tricky, because even if you hold it in place with a jig, it can still distort. I do it all the time on a smaller scale and even after releasing the part it sometimes flexes toward a particular direction.

    Do you need to weld the axle?
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  3. MikeH686

    MikeH686 Mine is only two inches though.

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    I probably will with a 347 turbo setup
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    I am a heavy diesel equip mechanic , buses mainly and i have yet to see an inner seal thats why i was boggled by this
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    I've never seen a rear axle with inner seals LOL. In a straight front axle 4x4 truck maybe. Your axle seals will leak at the drum/rotor. If you run a slick or a drag radial you run the risk of the tube spinning in the center section. It happens. Can you weld it? YES. Should you weld it? If you make enough power I would.
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    It is a front axle if you look at the other pics.
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    ...and srtthis and looked at the rear ends of a LOT of racers. Look at his CT for cryin' out loud. o_O
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    Why would you need inner seals? The diff fluid is free to slosh around in either axle tube all the way the outer bearings and seals


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  10. MikeH686

    MikeH686 Mine is only two inches though.

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    Yeah if you have these so called inner seals what would you need outers for?
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    One reason you don't have inner seals is because you want the lube to get to the bearing at the end of the tube. On a front straight axle in a 4x4 you have inner seals and a dry tube because the outer bearing is contained in the hub and is grease packed.
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    MikeH686 Mine is only two inches though.

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    Right i understand that lol
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    Some Jeeps, in the 1943 era and later have inner axle seals.

    That said, I solved the above dilema by simply putting a number of welds spaced around the tubes on my axle. The center section is cast steel so it should weld ok with mig or flux core. Not sure if I needed it yet, but the axle was out and accessible.
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