Alright, well I bit the bullet and after contemplating getting some EL backlit gauges I decided to go ahead and get some for my 4 banger, since I have alot of problems with the lights going on and off spiradically, a real pain in the ass. So here was my answer, these gauges, however, I ran into a problem, as you can see, I can't slide them over the needles cuz of that wonderfully shaped gauge base ( ) So, how do you properly remove the gauge needles, also any tips about how to set them in place like the gas/temp gauges?