NewPony'05
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just a quick link with some factual information
http://www.carnuttv.com/articles/articles_drive_by_wire.htm
http://www.carnuttv.com/articles/articles_drive_by_wire.htm
NewPony'05 said:just a quick link with some factual information
http://www.carnuttv.com/articles/articles_drive_by_wire.htm
SVTdriver said:Doesn't all the technology make it easier to work on your car.
Ray III said:damn... let's get some facts straight here
Call me old fashioned if you like... but you won't see me buy any vehicle built after 1995. There's just too much stuff wrong with them after the great race toward overcomplication.
WrongWay said:Yes please do get your facts straight.. and you don’t have to worry about me calling you old fashion, because you are now crossing over to the realm of ignorant. Maybe you should get the necessary training to update your skills as a technician so you can better understand the complexities of today’s automobiles
63_Fairlane said:Ummmm,
Electricity moves pretty dam fast... fast enough to be considered instantaneous to the human eye sooooo I don't think that is the cause of the lag. Let me rephrase that, THE SPEED AT WHICH ELECTRICITY TRAVELS IS SO DAMN FAST THAT WE MEAR HUMANS CAN NOT COMPREHEND IT!!!!
The lag was programed into earlier bywire systems to keep Joe and Suzie McMinivan_Civic_Urban_Asault_Vehicle from killing someone. Read articles about the C5 and the C6... are there any complaints? No.
How much different this will be from what we have now? Right now, all the driver does is open a butterfly valve, the throttle position sensor sends a signal(ELECTRICAL) to the computer, and the COMPUTER decides how much gas will be sprayed....seems pretty instantaneous to me. The only differance is now the computer may have a say in how the butterfly valve opens.
After market throttle bodies should not be any more expensive than they are now. The electric motor should unbolt like a TPS module.
Now, if on the other hand you want to argue about the 4.6 being a huge, heavy, overcomplicated lump... then I will be more than happy to agree.
ryanrule said:electricity aint really that fast. for short distances though, its quick enough
I'm sure that there would have to be some sort of backup system and / or limp home mode.
MustangGT01 said:Yeap there is a way. It's called the tow truck. The more an more I have to deal with all the electronic crap in my car the more I love the older Capri RS I had. That damn car wasn't pretty but it got my ass home even when a sending unit went out or bad. Try that in a newer car these days and some of them will be on the back of a tow truck.
Drive by wire isn't anything more than a damn variable speed drill. they tell you you need all this crap but do you really? Exactly how many acceleration cables have you had to replace on a Mustang. I must be lucky cause I damn sure haven't had to yet. I bet their a site damn cheaper, faster, and easier to replace than that "by wire" crap too.
SVTdriver said:And as far as needing it. Considering they are tightening emissions laws. This is a way to help the car achieve those standards. So to a point. YES you do need it.