You guys are right and I'm an azz hole. Mustangs rule and my Camaro rattles, clunks and smells like feet. I admit of running high 16's with a car that has been discontinued. So you can add the Camaro to the other list of GM discontinued winners-Citation, Fiero, Corsica, Berretta, Celebrity, Chevette, ElCamino, Firebird, Grand Am, T1000 and the list go's on.